Minister: Scrapping Ham from Menu Not Islamisation

11 02 2011

From NIS News Bulletin:

THE HAGUE, 09/02/11 – Home Affairs Minister Piet Hein Donner has rejected suggestions that the fact the police in Gelderland are not served pigmeat any more is an illustration of Islamisation of Dutch society.

The province’s corps is no longer served any ham rolls, according to local newspaper De Gelderland. This meat is not ‘halal’ for Muslims. Party for Freedom (PVV) MPs Geert Wilders and Hero Brinkman had complained to the minister about this “example of unacceptable Islamisation of the Netherlands.”

According to the Christian democratic (CDA) minister, there is no question of this. In a letter to parliament, he writes that the ‘halal lunch packages’ are only an ‘organisational measure’. Because a number of people “for whatever reasons do not eat pigmeat,’ it was simply easier to scrap ham from the menu.

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11 02 2011
Yah

Yah demands that ham rolls be available for all police who so desire them. Yah has spoken.

11 02 2011
Max a proud infidel

John: FYI I am reproducing a letter from FROM A CORRESPONDENT from this mornings Pakistan Daily Times. If you don’t believe it check it out for yourself.
This is precisely the reason why many infidels like myself, Ingrid and others are supporting Geert Wilders campaign. We would like to see Dutch retain their institutions and traditions and their law. I am sure muslims would be welcome but not at the expense of Sahria. It cuts right accross the spectrum in Europe or elsewhere. People are prepared to fight for their freedom of choice. I am giving you only one example of islamic intolerance, but there are many more we can quote. Ingrid has time and time again referred to these with great eloquence. BUT IT SEEMS YOU ARE NOT CONVINCED. I only hope you will be able to increase your understanding.

“Sir: A monitoring exercise conducted by the law firm AGHS exposed that from April to June last year, 122 cases of women being burnt alive were reported in Lahore. Furthermore, over 470 women were subjected to violence in Sindh between April and June 2009, according to the Aurat Foundation. Last year, at least two women were believed to have been buried alive in Balochistan. It is important to note that much of the violence against women, particularly in the domestic sphere, goes unreported. Treating violence against women, including domestic abuse, as a crime will give protection to the victims in meaningful terms.
MOHEEM KARIM
Kech”

11 02 2011
John

I’m really not sure what that is intended to prove Max. That there are horrible acts being committed against women in Pakistan? Ok, noted. Please explain how that justifies Ingrid’s policy prescription of stripping all Muslims (women and children included), regardless of citizenship status, of their constitutional rights and property and deporting them. I really, really, don’t follow. The innocent, law abiding Muslims living in my country have absolutely nothing to do with that news item in Pakistan. They have as much to do with it as you do. So why are you posting that as justification for stripping innocent Muslims of their rights? I could just as easily post a piece about systemic rape by people claiming to be Christians in the eastern Congo and then state that it justifies massive political repression of Christians in Western countries. How would that be any different? What you are seeking to be is blame innocent people for actions that have nothing to do with them. I hope this increases your understanding of why you are a bigot and why you will never convince me that what happens in Pakistan should jsutify politcal repression of innocent minorities at home.

11 02 2011
John

I think you have an extreme misunderstanding of my position Max, and those who oppose Geert Wilders. Nobody, certainly not me, is advocating for the imposition of Sharia law in western countries. I am a liberal atheist and strict Sharia law is in complete opposition to my beliefs. I would oppose tis application to me and my family in friends in all circumstances. But that is not Geert Wilders position. His position is that Islam shoudl be banned and criminalized. And that all Muslims, not by virtue of any unlawful actions and not even by virtue of their believe in extremist varieties of Islam, but ALL Muslims, should be be criminalized. This is the repressive, facistic type of thought crime possible. This is what I oppose. This is what makes Wilders a bigot. Ingrid is just plain bat-shit-insane and is literally seeking ethnic cleansing of Muslims driven by her believe that the apolcalypse is at hand. I don’t see any difference between her and violent Islamists. They are each elminationists. Yet, you seem to have to problem with that.

So you see, if you were campaigning against the imposition of Sharia law (in circumstances under which such a threat was credible – to think its credible today in Western countries is fucking ridiculous – Muslims make up less than 7% of the population in any European country and only a small minority of those favour Sharia) and campaigning to help integrate new immigrant to western values, I would be in full agreement. But that is not what you and Ingrid and Wilders support. You support massive political repression of Muslims as collective punishment for the crimes of people that have nothing to do with the targets of your repression. That is why there is opposition to Wilders. Is it becoming more clear now?

11 02 2011
Ingrid Worldwide Infidel Alliance

Dear Max,

Thank you, and thankyou to Moheem Karim in Pakistan. We are so terribly sorry for those people who suffered pain and terror and death, needlessly.

Max, you mentioned distributing the info I tried to write about Mohammed, and Islam, which I thought was a great idea. You probably would be able to make it better, I was just writing it quickly as I remembered those things which I have proven as fact, but you could make it better since you know Islam very well and I didn’t give the sources. Please feel free to delete, add and source, as I would be unable to do it soon, I feel I am overwhelmed with urgent things which must be done, but that idea you have is very urgently needed, I agree. Senators, Congress, groups around the world, newpapers like in Pakistan, whoever you think, please feel free to use it and write it up better as you feel it would help anyone, any person. These facts are not taught very openly in many places as they are embarrassing even to those who have been taught this is right, so this is what the world needs to know. I will ask Walker Morrow to give you my email if you would like to contact me as I may be able to help you with something in this a little down the road. I have to go now, but will be back tomorrow! Bless you Max and all the infidels wherever you are right now, may Yah keep you safe

11 02 2011
John

Max, please also remember to make clear that the apocolypse will be coming any day now, and that Geert Wilder’s may actually be the Messiah, Yah willing. These are also things that Ingrid has proven as fact. It is no cooincidence that 2012 represents the end of the Mayan long-count calendar. Oh, and Barack Obama is a secret Muslim. Anything else Ingrid?

11 02 2011
Yah

Thanks Johnny-boy. High-five! I’ve got a special spot for you right by my side here. Ingrid! You make Yah angry! I don’t think you are being crazy and hysterical enough… pick it up a notch!

11 02 2011
John

Ingrid – still waiting for you to renounce your religion for commanding you to stone homosexuals to death. I can only assume that your decision to remain religious is a result of your approval of the barbaric, cruel practice of stoning homosexuals.

11 02 2011
John

PS. Sorry Yah – but that really is some sick shit.

11 02 2011
Yah

Ingrid, bring me a ham sandwich or I will arrange for Muslims to move in next door to you.

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

MUSLIMS, CAN ANY ONE OF YOU IN THE WORLD ANSWER ONE SIMPLE QUESTION:

it would help mightily in establishing community cohesion which our politicians want to enforce:

Why do you care about pig meat making you impure when you don’t care about raping of your little children – what kind of sense does that make, where do you get your ideas of humanity and ‘purity’?

Who taught you your basic principles, where do they come from?

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

Who would you rather marry – if you really had a choice – someone who ate a ham sandwich right before the wedding, or someone who raped a little girl or little boy – right before your wedding?

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

Please tell us truthfully, if you know what truth is.

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

These basic questions are what cause much distrust and hatred between Muslims and infidels.

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

Do you think that anyone who rapes a child or a slave will go to Paradise?

Please, Muslims – answer us.

12 02 2011
John

INGRID, CAN ANY ONE OF YOU IN THE WORLD ANSWER ONE SIMPLE QUESTION:

it would help mightily in establishing community cohesion which our politicians want to enforce:

Why do you care about Muslims so much when you don’t care about stoning to death homosexuals – what kind of sense does that make, where do you get your ideas of humanity and ‘purity’?

Who taught you your basic principles, where do they come from?

Please tell us truthfully, if you know what truth is. Probably you don’t because you follow the barbaric cruel lies of Yah who wants all homosexuals stoned to death.

These basic questions are what cause much distrust and hatred between Yah-lovers and infidels.

Do you think that anyone who stones to death a homosexual will go to Paradise?

Please, Yah-lover – answer us.

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

I do not believe that Yah wants homosexuals to be stoned to death.

Shut your evil lying mouth.

On the other hand, if it were up to me, I would be the first one to start stoning those creeps, those devils in human form, in the Afghan Police force right now, were I there, and could, who are KIDNAPPING AND TAKING, RAPING AFGHAN BOYS AND MEN, LITTLE AND BIG, OLD AND YOUNG. Those are the people who should be STONED – IN AS PAINFUL A MANNER AND AS LONNG AND DRAGGED OUT AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.

go to hell, you blasphemer.

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

And the same to the monsters who are called people who are raping the women and the girls, and beating them, – those are the people who I think should be stoned.

12 02 2011
John

Why are you afraid to acknowledge what the cruel, evil, barbaric Yah has commanded you to do Ingrid? Why do you deny what Yah’s scriptures are clear about? Are you afraid to acknowledge the truth – that Yah is a sick perverted sadist and monster?

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

And I love Yah and I hope he still loves me, even though I am a sinner.

the above person, people – is a lying perverted ass who said he would not kill Hitler if he had been given the chance.

12 02 2011
John

Until you renounce the evil Yah, it means that you must support his evil commandment to stone homosexuals to death Ingrid. Why are you standing up for such a horrible monster like Yah? Tell us infidels why you will not condemn the cruel Yah because we don’t understand. It is because I care about you Ingrid that I must bring to your attention that Yah is a perverted sadist.

12 02 2011
John

Loving Yah means loving that evil monster’s commandment to stone to death homosexuals. You are a cruel, evil barbarian Ingrid. Why do you seek the love of such a monster? Tell us infidels, so that we may work towards community cohesion.

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

He does not even care that Hitler, in killing Hitler, would not have murdered over 6 million innocent people, including tiny children.

That’s his kind of twisted, mean-spirited ‘love’.

Go to hell with your lying and your perversive talk.

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

The issue is the habit, continual and doctinally sourced, of Muslims’ brutal murders.

There are NO JEWS AND CHRISTIANS WHO ARE STONING PEOPLE.

FUCK OFF YOU LYING ASSHOLE, YOU PERVERTED, SADISTIC, MURDEROUS EXCUSE FOR A MAN. WE KNOW YOU.

12 02 2011
Ingrid, Worldwide Infidel Alliance for Humanity

THE ONLY THING i WILL EVER SAY TO YOU AGAIN, DUE TO YOUR BLASPHEMY OF YAH, IS – GET AWAY FROM HERE, GO TO HELL, YOU AND YOUR GOD SATAN, AND TAKE YOUR LIES WITH YOU THERE, FOR ETERNITY.

YAH WILL AVENGE. YAH WILL JUDGE. STAY AWAY FROM US. I CURSE YOU IN YAH’S NAME.

12 02 2011
John

Please try to refrain from stoning homosexuals to death while on vacation Ingrid. I know the evil sadist pervert Yah has commanded you to do so, but please, think about the cruelty of Yah before obeying him.

12 02 2011
John

Why is it so offensive for you to hear Yah’s commandments Ingrid? If it is because Yah is so ful of evil, why do you still obey him? Tall us infidels so we understand.

22 02 2011
Praapje

Hi there John,

it’s Praapje again. I just can’t get over the fact that you realy seem to think that Shariah poses no threat to the West. You say there are only about 7 percent of muslims in each major European country and that only a minority wants to install Shariah. Well, I don’t think that 40 percent of Britains muslim youth is a tiny minority, do you?

If it poses no threat according to you, how come we are talking about it so fiercefully? How come the Islam dominates the Western (Europe) debate? It doesn’t have to take a majority to take over a country, you know. Look at Lebanon in the early seventies! The way to implement Shariah is slowly and step by step. Perhaps it is indeed a small percentage of the muslim population, but that percentage has all the money and the means and the will to do so. I hate to make the comparison, but…didn’t the European leaders thought the same about the NSDAP party? Underestimating is very dangerous. Better be safe than sorry.

22 02 2011
Praapje

Eh…Ingrid? I don’t mean to assault you, so please don’t take this the wrong way. You are a Christian? And as a Christian you damn John to hell? THat isn’t very nice, is it. And certainly not a very Christian thing to do. My advise is: don’t let John get the better of you. Don’t get so bothered by him. You disagree, that’s fine, but don’t make a big deal out of it.

Furthermore, you condemn his god Satan. Well, i do not understand. I believe John is an atheist, so he has no god. And that’s fine too. Why can’t you agree that you disagree and move on?

It’s such a lovely day today!

23 02 2011
Ingrid Worldwide Infidel Alliance

Hello Praapje. You obviously have not read all his vile posts, and I do NOT want you to see them, they are the vilest, most filthy evil-spirited blasphemy of the Creator of the Universe.

Yes, I condemn him and his god, vile and vicious, whose slave he is. I will not speak to that being. I am ashamed that I ever did, may Yah forgive me.

He is not an atheist. He is a pretend-Atheist, not a genuine atheist. There are lots of those kind of people on boards like this. You can tell who he worships by what he says.

Also in the Bible, we are not forbidden from cursing evil. In fact, we are supposed to do it. But not lightly. You would be surprised about a lot of things in the Bible which are very important which preachers don’t like to convey to their flocks, to our detriment. Many fables are taught instead of the truth, which is treachery to us. It’s very bad. I don’t go to Church for decades for that reason. It’s useless if they lie continually to you. I am therefore a believer in the bible but not a Christian. If you read it, really read it, it will become clear to you how that is, plus read history/archeology. We have been misled to such a degree that the religion of Christianity is only connected to the Bible in that the precept of a God existing and a sent-son saviour (intercepted by Set/Satan and used cleverly for his own agenda of deception) and the hope of life hereafter and a life of kindness are the only things in common with the religion of the Bible. This is very dangerous if you actually believe the Bible. We are in for it. Not to detract from those who out of no fault of their own, have been misled into believing fables/lies, and who give their lives for what they have been taught is true and good. The intention will be honoured. The harm from believing in lies is often irreparable which Yah laments repeatedly througout the bible. This will soon end, this life of torment and misery and murder. Everything will soon be put aright by Our Father Yah by the coming of His Strong Right Arm, Yahushua/Yahshua the Messiah. Infidels of all faiths, know that your peace and joy will be restored fully, and whatever bad you have endured, will be made never to have happened. Bless you all. Know Allah is your enemy, and not everyone called God is good. The Devil wants to take the world’s worship and has basically done just that. Yah protect you from all harm, infidels. I hope none of this is confusing, in trying to answer your questions, Praapje.

goodnight! Bless you infidels all over the world- this state will not last. You will be rewarded: as my infidel friend Ravi Ranjan Singh has said:

Raj Kharega Khalsa. Aki Rahe Na Koy.

a Sikh Slogan meaning,
Pure will rule.
All obstacles (hurdles) will be overcome.

bless you all out there. Look up, this will be done.

23 02 2011
Ingrid Worldwide Infidel Alliance

Pure, that is, Pure of Heart.

Geert is Pure of Heart. We love Geert, he is our leader of the Infidels Worldwide.

He is for mercy, kindness, and tolerance. He is against murder, hatred, mutilation, rape and stoning. He is for safety of all peoples. He is trying to restore sanity to his country’s bad policy of toleration of vile atrocities and an evil doctrine which commands/demands human beings to destroy others.

Pure of Heart.

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