Reader mail – the trial of Geert Wilders

17 10 2010

A reader forwarded this on to me: a message from her to the Dutch embassy in Canberra:

Dear Mr Andreae,
 
I have no words to adequately express my sense of outrage at the prosecution of Mr Geert Wilders for speaking the truth.  We must stop minimising the great danger that Islam poses to Western civilizations and the rights that have been fought for and won over many centuries.
 
Islam is not a benign and tolerant religion: its stated aim is world domination.  Islam is not just a belief; it is a way of life and a violent way of life, especially for women.  There are no rights for the individual, in marked contrast to what those of us in the West take for granted.  And the most important of these, our democratic rights is freedom of speech.  Those who speak out publicly against Islam face death.  A few weeks ago there was a discussion on ABC television about whether the burqa should be banned.  A neighbour of mine, a Lebanese Muslim, spoke out strongly against the wearing of this demeaning garment; she has already had several death threats!
 
Islam is a medieval religion that condones the genital mutilation of millions of little girls every year.  A woman is only worth half a man: a woman is less than nothing.  Countless numbers of girl babies and older girls and women die from neglect and starvation.  An estimated 600,000 women die in childbirth each year because they have no access to medical help.  It also condones honour killings and the persecution of gays and other minority groups.  Why are we in awe of other people’s “culture” when it has nothing to commend it but habit?  Thanks to the much maligned colonialists, practices such as suttee and the binding of women’s feet were banned over a century ago.  The time is overdue to ban other cultures that have no place in today’s modern societies.
 
The Netherlands should be proud of its history of learning:  it founded the first universities in Europe in the 16th and 17th centuries.  It has been in the forefront of painting, music and the arts for hundreds of years.  It has long been an open-minded, just and generous society.  Mr Wilders opening speech is brilliant and courageous; as Voltaire so rightly said: “It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong”.
 
Islam is based on inequality, ignorance and blind obedience to Allah, as interpreted by power-hungry and bigoted men.  All of us who value our way of life with its many freedoms must ignore all this rubbish about “political correctness” and vigorously defend our wonderful Western civilization.  Once we abandon our own values our society is lost.  Mr Geert Wilders must be acquitted.
 
Yours sincerely,
 
*********  

Sent to:
Mr C.W. Andreae
The Ambassador to the Netherlands
120 Empire Circuit
Yarralumla
Canberra,   ACT 2600

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13 responses

18 10 2010
Rob Hoey

I am concerned and saddened at the current world situation whereby political correctness trumps personal freedom. It is very frightening that a man like Geert Wilders has to even waste his time dealing with this issue. Anyone has the right to say what he or she believes about the Koran, the Bible, of the Torah. But it is the people of the Koran who are the most intolerant of all. While the will not allow a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia, for example, and shred Bibles if you try to bring one in with you when you arrive; when only Muslims can go to Mecca and Medina because non-Muslims are looked upon as filth, as good as human waste, and we tolerate this for political correctness, something is wrong. We are so unaware of how a “religion” can support this, but it does. We cannot believe that it does because our values are totally different than those of Islam. I know there are good Muslims out there, but there is no good Islam in the Koran. It preaches anti-antisemitism, misogyny, and hatred for gays and lesbians, and its goal is to spread sharia throughout the world. Mr. Wilders has every right to say what he wants in this matter as he did, especially when he is genuinely concerned for the west.

18 10 2010
Tamara

Just leave him alone. He is my voice. I am a woman who has been suppressed, abused, taught to hate non Muslims just because the Qur’an says to. I value my freedom of speech and my support is with him. I am an apostate and can be killed for leaving this barbaric cult. Please do not publish my name.

18 10 2010
Ingrid

Bless you immensely, Tamara. I know. We are with you completely, I’ll be praying like anything for your safety, and for Our Creator (The Real), to cover you with his tender all-encompasing mercies as you live through this horrid time. It was predicted. This earth and what’s going on, been going on, was NOT Yah’s plan, but now that we’re on it, it has to be finished. I think its on its last stretch. He wants everyone to come out. And he knows what the thoughts are in the hearts.

Do you live in a Western country, that would be easier to find help. don’t trust anyone, except ex-Muslims. Have you seen website, Former Muslims United.com? You can email me, on this one, my more public one, wretchedinfidel@yahoo.com, and then, I can give you another one if you like. Maybe I can help you.

18 10 2010
Ingrid

Exactly, Rob Hoey.
Thank you for speaking out for him. He is a great hero for all of us. May Yah keep him safe from the murderers and everything else evil/dangerous.

18 10 2010
Rob Hoey

Hi Ingrid,
As an atheist, I don’t believe in a supreme being, but I am very big on morality, fairness, and freedom. I know of no religion, particularly monotheistic religions, that have never been violent at some time in their history. However, it is only Islam that prescribes it in their “holy book,” which is really more of a manual on waging war. It is reading of the Koran that has cinched it for me to become an atheist, but I truly appreciate your fine intentions in your reply and I wish you the best.

18 10 2010
Ingrid

Exactly.
You are like Geert Wilders. He is an atheist/agnosticus – I think first, an atheist, now, an agnosticus, admitting that he does not know.

We all should be, like you, and as he is, open minded, fair, tolerant (to a point before it becomes suicidal), kind and chivalrous, brave and strong.

I think he should be King!

Wouldn’t you say he would be an excellent one?!

I am sorry that you felt the Quran was proof that there must be no Creator, it is a terribly evil demonic invention. Do you believe in pure evil? After reading the Quran? I do. I have seen it, in my own family, not wanting to, but not being able to shake it off, then, to top it off, I saw it firsthand, many years, being ‘married’ to a (I still cannot believe this) Muslim.

I can now say for sure that there is such a thing as pure, unadulterated evil, and I don’t think it’s human. (or stems simply from humans).

So another thing has been for me to conclude, is seeing the pureness and noble spirit in my children, there is, MUST be, as soon my first son was born, I saw and realized something never before so clearly: there is an awesome power, a being, sentient, and all-able, powerfully mysteriously inexplicably BENIGN, Who made the universe and all of creation, us, in those eyes.
and which is against that other kind, which is the evil, that I saw in the man I thought I married.
Thank you for your posting, and your support and well-wishing, we need it, for sure. Bless you, INFIDEL Rob! You are noble.

18 10 2010
Ingrid

But I am like you, I also am no part of any organized formal religion. So much hypocrisy, so much pride, and no one really interested at all in any real, nitty-gritty hard truth.
It seems to be a social thing, or a corroboration of one’s choice/road taken in life, which I’m suspecting is desired by most people because they feel privately, desperately that major truths are missing. But it doesn’t seem to really help them, much.

18 10 2010
Ingrid

But I love all the people who speak up here, you are obviously all the people that the world has so few of, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, atheist, agnostic, you are the ones who do what everyone was supposed to do and be. If we all were like all of you, then, the world would have very small problems, none of this would be happening.
Truth seekers, unite! Infidels all over the world, take heart. Better will eventually come. First I think its going to be rougher than we have seen yet. But that will pass, then the good plan, finally!

18 10 2010
Ingrid

And we aren’t really at fault, those who do try to go to church are taught lies as truth (like what kind of Creator would punish the humans he loves so badly for eating an apple or a fruit, he who would withhold no good thing from us?)

That is hard to take. In Church, the minister is afriad to talk about the sex in the Garden of Eden, or at any time. Our sexuality is bound up with our spiritual nature, and is where it’s at, from the start, so why are they afraid to broach that whole precept of how Hua (Eve) was wholly seduced (starting with his lies) by Haleil (Lucifer) in the Garden of Eden? The enemy of humanity knew how we were made, to be made for love and sexual/spiritual communion, without which a part of our humanity is unrealized. mean to If only the places where the Scriptures/bible is ostensibly taught and believed Churches would just tell the truth, about everything, fwritten, from Genesis to Revelation, then our people wouldn’t be so smugly ignorant, they’d be dead serious about this fight we’re in, a deadly serious war we are all involved in, by default. Those who don’t know we are in a war here on earth of life and death, spirit, such immensely high stakes, are already going to be defeated here. Churches shouldn’t be afraid of telling the truth. So many people become disenfranchised, thinking, if that’s what’s supposed to be the truth, then, then therefore no truth or good Creator does exist, which is not the logical conclusion, just observe, and the evidence is that there must be a Powerful, Benign Creator. but if you go to the churches, you will not get much, except skirting about the issues in the Bible, (even though its been edited, tampered with and augmented/deleted) and the facts of history will be studiously ignored. That’s why this Creator in the Bible is going to hold our hurt/blood at the ‘shepherd’s’ own heads, not our own, it was their job to show us the truths therein.

18 10 2010
Helga Schimmel

Amen to that !!!

19 10 2010
Rob Hoey

The sad thing is, even with the victory in court, Islam has still managed to intimidate the west. It’s a victory for them too because of our fear of confronting something that is sitting on our noses. Freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and freedom of religion, whether it’s to be of any religion of choice, or no religion, should be a given. No human being has the right to dictate what we say, as long as it does no damage to another living person. What kind of god is so fragile that it needs its creation to praise it five times a day, kill in its name if one stops believing in its existence, or wants to live his or her own life in a manner consistent with their personal belief? It is a fragile god and an even more fragile, baseless “religion.” The Koran says to fear Allah, to hate people of the book (Jews and Christians), to kill infidels, and to spread its [sharia] law throughout the world, where women have half the rights of men, can be raped by their husbands, who, in turn, can take up to four wives, although their privileged prophet could take as many as he liked, including a 6 year old child. Most Muslims aren’t able to read Arabic and have never really read and understood how sick their fearless leader was.

19 10 2010
Ravi Ranjan Singh

Dear Mr Andreae,

West must realize JIHAD IS A WAR, EVER-GOING;
NOT AGAINST WEST, OR ONLY WEST.

It is as much against East, if not more. Unfortunately, Jihad got attention of West only after, the heat was unbearable for it.
On other hand The East, especially Bharat that is India, bore the burnt for centuries.
Westerners please understand clearly Jihad is not at against West, it is as much against East, specifically against humanity. Now human race has to fight it out, jointly.
You need to know, how Jihadis overran India?
How and why Sikhism was formed?
Why & How were Sikhs tortured to death for not accepting Islam?
Why Jihadis still consider them as enemy no.1 and Potential Danger/Death?
To Stop Jihad, west should do what Sikhs did Centuries back, and remember that time they were outnumbered, out of power, had no nation, were on run, individual properties confiscated, having Price and Prize for their Heads.
And how handful of Sikhs overthrew Mughals the Mighty? Chased Jihadis right up to their burrow Afghanistan, took over Kabul, Kandhar, Jalalbad, made them sign ‘document of repentance and apology’ for their and their forefathers deeds. Made Afghans wear Salwar Kamiz the dress of women( who were seen as lowly creatures/slave/protected by Jihadis) and was against their tenet, considered as humiliation to great warriors, for the reason that, Pathans mercenaries tried to escape, disguised themselves as women by putting on Burqua, as Sikh commander-in-chief Hari Singh Nalwa ordered to his men ‘no rape, no molestation, no harm to children’. Afghans had to digest it, as luck would have it, latter it became part of their life, and now it is their ‘National Dress’. Arabs still taunt Afghans as homos and Kafir on Salwar issue.
What were their military and other strategies and strength? What can we learn from Sikh history?
How killing the impact of Islamic Rulers was on India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh; that a new religion/Panth came into being.

Bharat was tragically partitioned nearly six decades back; the greater tragedy is it was not partitioned as Muslim India and Hindu India or Muslim India and Non-Muslim India but as Muslim India that is now Pakistan and Secular India.
In other words Muslims got one Muslim Monopoly or Darul-Islam Country Pakistan and other Bharat (India) where they are equal Partners.
Hindus, Sikhs, Christians & Buddhists got one country to be shared amongst themselves and Muslims as equal Partners.

It was Victory of Jihad, but was projected as win-win situation by Gandhi and his sponsors and former Colonial Masters the British.

Busy in celebrating or reconciling WW IInd the west could not realize Jihad that has taken Place.

An Independence that has been tricked into, at cost of Millions of life, transfer of 10s of Millions of citizens on basis of religion(in a very intelligible manner favoring Jihadis) and seeds of another Jihad/Partition left in Secular India(hidden in grab of Liberal Hindu culture/Secularism).
It was Win-Win Situation in fact, but for Jihadis the new Rulers of Pakistan and their (natural Partners) Establishment of Secular India. Jihadis got a full-fledged Nation State Pakistan and another Nation State called India in which they became Equal Partners. India’s new and incompetent leaders also felt as winners because (a) got rid of their competitors in power, especially Jinnah who could outsmart Indian Leaders (incompetent and imposed) The ringleader of these incompetent, imposed and bogus leaders wanted himself to be written as apostle of Love and he succeeded in it, he fooled the world that time and the world is still fooling itself by believing that agent, powerbroker, Jihad-Sympathizer and veiled Jihadi as SAINT. He was probably also aspiring for Noble Prize, his followers who are in still in absolute power in India are still trying get Noble Prize for him posthumously.
As expected in six decades population of Non-Muslims that was more than 20% in Pakistan diminished to less than 3%.
The reason is Jihad, Convincing the gullible, concession/ indulgence to willing, terrorizing the sensible, forcing upon challenger the killing the defiant. Population of Bangladesh a State latter fallen apart from Pakistan had more than 35% Hindu Population now has less than 7% Hindus.
Where as Muslim Population of Bharat (India) that was 10% after Partition is now any thing between 15 to 25%.The Game of Demography, another Jihad lost by Bharat (India) and followers of Indigenous Dharam/Panths (Religions) and non-Jihadi foreign originated Religions (of course now these religion are as much part of India as Indigenous Religions/Panths) Furthermore, Zoroastrianism is condemned in its country of origin, Iran and is respected in Bharat.
Taking advantage of its religious tolerance was and is exploited by Jihadis. Off course some Christians Missionaries are also doing the same, but its overzealousness of some Christian denominations, Churches and individuals behind it. But no way can Holy Bible be held responsible, nor is any Christian Governments budgeting the conversion or actively or remotely promoting it. The damage done by these Missionaries to Indigenous Dharma/Religion are
One: the converts are uprooted from their roots, cut of from their folks and there is mistrust between neo-converts and parental community. Two: They identify themselves with alien faith, that they hardly understand but they are alienated from motherland. These neo-Converts in turn convert more aboriginals, Tribals, poor, disadvantageous victims. They use every method from ‘planted miracles’ to glorifying false stories about Jesus to draw analogies with Hindu Gods. Animal, fallible gods of primitive, lowly, colonized Hindu Race. Now these neo-converts are anti-Hindu, and identify Jihadis as lesser enemy or even friends as discriminated cousins. Three: The neo-convert (and their white masters) in turn are extremely dedicated some times carried away, sometimes because of own reasons and most of the time to prove their loyalty, they keep inventing Christianity and have created a Pagan-Christianity. So the false Christianity is doing harm to soul of Christianity and the genuine peace loving Missionaries also get maligned. Forth: Much of Christian and Hindu force is spent contending each other, like Jews and Christians or Catholic and Protestants. This dilutes their energy to fight Universal Evil the Jihad.
The slaughter on Bharat (India) started much before that of West, Right from 714 AD. Though ‘Test Fire’ Skirmish took place decades before major onslaught.
Now how did Bharat Survive, and is still going strong is a study case for West.
The struggle of the Hindus to resist the Jihadi aggression into India was spread over a period of 600 years from 715 AD. Up to 1328 Ad. This contrasts with the swift Muslim victories in Persia (Iran) over the Zoroastrian Sassanians and in Mesopotamia, Egypt and North Africa over the Romans (Byzantines). The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease. And even after subjugating different parts of the country, they were never able to rule it entirely. The next 400 years from 1328 up to 1720 was marked by a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny.

The Hardest hit was blown to Jihadis when their power was at peak. When they were a superpower and believed to be invincible.
Rajputs and Gujjars opposed them first as they were attacked first. Latter Jats opposed them, Tribals and almost every community opposed them in India.

But the role of Sikhs is a special study case and source of inspiration. As they just did not just fought Jihadis, for themselves and by themselves, but were especially created, to end the tyrant.

The Sikhism Started with Guru Nanak, He opposed the mighty aggressor Babur single handedly. He called him Jabbar meaning tyrant and cruel right at his face.
Later Guru Arjun Dev was tortured to death for not accepting Islam.
The story of Last Sikh Guru Govind Singh begins. Aurangzeb the Emperor was most intolerant Sunni Jihadi. To him Sufis and Shias were also infidels.
In intoxication of his power he was killing Hindus on refusal to convert to Islam. Kashmir being the centre of learning and Land of learned (Brahmans) was his special area of interest as he believed converting intellectuals is more useful and easy.
Disappointed, helpless Brahmins of Kashmir met Guru Teg Bhadur father of Last Guru with a hope. After discussions with them Guru Teg Bhadur sent a message to Aurangzeb that “all Hindus especially Kashmir Brahmins will embrace Islam willingly, provided you convince me and convert me”.
This was a heartening development for Aurangzeb. By just converting one man he will get paradise, 72 Virgins.
Guru visited Delhi; he was made to converse with Quazi.
Kazi said Idol worshiping and ringing of bells to please God is a sin. Muslims don’t do it, and we must finish these idol worshipers. Guru said I don’t worship Idols nor believe in bells and I am against this ritual.
Kazi asked why are you siding with them, if its so?
Guru said I don’t have right to kill someone if does not believes in what I believe. I am for freedom first.
Not being able to convince, his companions were brutally tortured before him to terrorize him. But he did not budge an inch. Finally Guru Teg Bhadur was also put to Death.

This was the turning point in the history.
After beheading him Kazi announced in this land of Kafirs anyone who calls himself a Hindu, may come forward and pick your Kafir Guru’s head. There was crowd of thousands and most of them were Hindus. But no one dare to come forward. That was declared end of Hinduism.
However, there was a dust storm, taking advantage of it one man cleverly managed to smuggle out his head.
He took his head straight to Punjab after traveling for nearly three days. He narrated the whole story to Guru Teg Bhadur’s son and the next and last Sikh Guru. “No one could dare to affirm himself Hindu though they were thousands of them”.
If Hindus can not dare say publicly that they are Hindus that really means Hinduism has now ceased to exist. Private, in house rituals done secretly are not going to last long. One must have courage to affirm his or her faith openly otherwise let’s disown our respective faiths.
Timid should be turned into Soldier.
So Guru Govind Singh gave Sikhs a sign bearing which he can not shy away from the fact that he is a follower of his faith. And that sign is his hair; a turncoat can not be a Sikh. If you are a Sikh you are a thorough Sikh, Sikh inside and Sikh outside. No scope escapism. Your enemy knows you, be ready to face it; otherwise you don’t be a Sikh rather you can’t be. That is it.
This boldness and direct challenge is the only answer to Jihad, to radicals, to oppressor, to mad lunatics. No double-mindedness, I am what I am, I am here to save humanity, old or young, sturdy or fragile but I am bold and strong; I am a Sikh.

Sikh Slogans and addressing forms are
‘Chardikala’ meaning ‘in high spirits’. Sikhs chant it even when injured or dying or even as captivity.
‘Sat Sri Akal’ meaning Truth shall prevail.
‘Raj Karega Khalsa, aaki rahe na koy’ Pure shall rule (not oppressors with worldly power) and there is no impediment in that.

Now whole Human race needs same firmness and zero tolerance against Jihadis.

Guru TegBhadur did not die for his faith; he was not an Idol worshiper: he died for others faith and his principal and that is not to oppress and not to be oppressed.
Know Sikhs, Support Sikhs, adopt their strategies.
Many opportunist Hindus also sided with Jihadis against Sikhs. As may opportunist Westerners are supporting Jihadis.
The Jihadi Propaganda was so strong that at one time of time even Hindus started feeling that Sikhs are to inhuman to Jihadis, without realizing Human Rights for Right Humans only. Hindus started feeling Sikhs are no more their well wishers and some Sikhs started distancing them self from their Hindu brothers. But in fact the bond between two communities is so strong that nothing can separate them.
So Sikhs just did not fight Jihadis, just for themselves but for Human Race. Sikhs realized the time bomb has not to be just neutralized, but diffused and dismantled and destroyed.

Sikhs also did not fight just by themselves.
From the very beginning they were extrovert, developing new relations and maintaining old ones, seeking new techniques, seeking and providing help from and to everyone who can defeat Jihadis.

Here continuing the Sikh Tradition I appeal to whole human race to unite against Jihadis.

Question some people ask me is are Sikhs Hindus?
No, they are not. I counter question is Butter Milk answer is here.
Butter is no milk but enhanced milk, but it is not milk.
Yes, butter is milk because it originates from milk. It is not from is not possible without milk.
Why I am writing it to Christian West, You need Sikh (type)-Christians to be raised to counter onslaught of anti-human evil cult.

21 10 2010
Chud Ehudy

Remember Yahoo Q and A removed Zionism is worse than Nazism! We can’t have a double standard!!

The Zionism is worse than Nazism as one was the product of a few mad people during a difficult period of time comparing Zionsm – which is the product of millions of Israelis and their supporters stretching across half a century with a stamp of infinity!

The Nazism is based on German nationalism and Zionism is based on Jewish nationalism. The Nazism subscribes on racial purity and supremacy. The Zionism subscribes on religious purity and supremacy and eventually ends up with racial supremacy and purity like Nazism!

The Zionists are milking the “Holocaust Cow” while conducting war crimes, massacres and genocides in the longest running concentration of the universe located in the occupied Palestine with a stamp of infinity!
Source: http://whodeservegaschamber.blogspot.com/2007/02/zionism-is-worse-than-nazism.html

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