‘Defence leagues’ plan Amsterdam show of support for Geert Wilders

9 10 2010

Via the Guardian:

Far right groups modelled on the English Defence League have been set up across Europe and are planning to demonstrate in Amsterdam in support of the Dutch politician Geert Wilders.

French and Dutch “defence leagues” will join the EDL and several other anti-Islamic organisations on 30 October to coincide with the end of Wilders’s trial for hate speech and inciting racism.

About 2,000 EDL supporters are expected to demonstrate in Leicester tomorrow. Home secretary Theresa May banned marches in the city this week but the EDL said its protest would go ahead, raising fears of unrest.

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10 10 2010
julietsm

Thank God! It’s about time that Mr. Wilders was shown some support from the Dutch. He is desperately trying to preserve their culture and the Islamisation of his country and for that he is called a fascist?
I am shocked that those who oppose Mr. Wilders haven’t taken a closer look at what he is saying and what he is trying to do for the citizens of the Netherlands. God bless this man who doesn’t knuckle under to political correctness but has the bravery to go ahead and speak out for what he knows is right.
I would like to see the dozens of Muslims who have made videos saying “We will kill that man!” in a courtroom.
How is it that when Mr. Wilders speaks openliy about despising a fascist ideology he is tried for hate speech, but those who plan to murder him are not?
Something smells rotten in Denmark.
Or the Netherlands, in this case.

10 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

This Israeli salve has been inciting violence against many ethno-religious groups under the guise of free speech! Yet, he is murdering other peoples’ free speech and moderating them!! He doesn’t mind to insult Jesus, mother Marry and Mohammed but not Moses!!!

He is scared of Israel. Wilders is scared of free speech and fair debate. On a several occasions he and his supporters avoided debate and murdered free speech.

The historical evidence of Al Aqsa and Temple Mount can easily prove the fact that Wilders allegations are fraudulent and baseless as well calculated to incite against Muslims and Arabs.

I wonder do yo have any problem with The Prophet Muhammad’s Last Sermon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Xc1MfX9X8 ?

Faruque Ahmed
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10 10 2010
julietsm

Furuque Ahmed,
Mr. Wilders is most definitely not afraid of free speech and fair debate! He is the one who is being suppressed.
I think it is Muslims who do not want the truth about your agenda to Islamize Europe to come out… At least not before it’s proper time. You’ve got the Leftists eating out of your hands right now, but not everyone is like they are. There are some of us who know exactly what your agenda is.
Everyone with their eyes wide open knows that you seek to impose Shariah on Europe, and ultimately the world.
You will find that Americans are not afraid of the truth and that we will never permit the Islamization of America.
I know you’re trying, but it will never happen.

11 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

If Wilders is not affraid of free speech then tell him to say something about these stories.

Jewish Women Must Not Vote
For more:
https://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/jewish-women-must-not-vote

Posted on 26 May 2010 by Garibaldi

I thought only Muslims had misogynistic attitudes? Are these Judeo-Christian values on display? Is this the Western Civilization prized as superior by the likes of Bill Maher? Imagine if this Rabbi were Muslim, Robert Spencer and his buddy Pamela Geller would be all over it like a hot cake. (hat tip: Mikebloke)

West Bank Rabbi Bans Women from Voting

The chief rabbi of a West Bank settlement has prohibited women from standing in a local community election.

Rabbi Elyakim Levanon of the Elon Moreh settlement, near Nablus, said women lacked the authority to stand for the post of local secretary.
He wrote in a community newspaper that women must only be heard through their husbands.

No women have registered for the election due to be held later on Wednesday, Israeli media reported.

The rabbi made his comments in the community’s newspaper after an unidentified young woman wrote to him asking if she could run for the position of community secretary, the Israeli news website Ynet News said.
‘Giving authority’

“I am a young woman and I think I have desire and energy to do things,” Ynet News quoted the woman as writing to Rabbi Levanon.
“It’s not right for men to be the only ones deciding how to run the community,” the letter reportedly said.

But in his weekly column, Rabbi Levanon wrote that, according to the teachings of influential rabbis, women were not allowed to apply for the position.

“The first problem is giving women authority, and being a secretary means having authority,” Rabbi Levanon wrote in the community’s newspaper.
“Within the family certain debates are held and when opinions are united the husband presents the family’s opinion.

“This is the proper way to prevent a situation in which the woman votes one way and her husband votes another,” he wrote.

He also said it was not appropriate for women to mix with men in late evening meetings of community leaders.

Women’s groups have condemned the comments.

“Such talk is scandalous enough to call the rabbi for a clarification. I expect leaders of the religious public in Israel to condemn the rabbi’s instruction,” Nurit Tzur of the Israel Women’s Lobby said .

Jewish Women Must Seat Behind Bus

Woman beaten on J’lem bus for refusing to move to rear seat
Miriam Shear says she was traveling to pray at the Western Wall in Jerusalem’s Old City early on November 24 when a group of ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) men attacked her for refusing to move to the back of the Egged No. 2 bus.
By Daphna Berman

A woman who reported a vicious attack by an ad-hoc “modesty patrol” on a Jerusalem bus last month is now lining up support for her case and may be included in a petition to the High Court of Justice over the legality of sex-segregated buses.

Miriam Shear says she was traveling to pray at the Western Wall in Jerusalem’s Old City early on November 24 when a group of ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) men attacked her for refusing to move to the back of the Egged No. 2 bus. She is now in touch with several legal advocacy and women’s organizations, and at the same time, waiting for the police to apprehend her attackers.

In her first interview since the incident, Shear says that on the bus three weeks ago, she was slapped, kicked, punched and pushed by a group of men who demanded that she sit in the back of the bus with the other women. The bus driver, in response to a media inquiry, denied that violence was used against her, but Shear’s account has been substantiated by an unrelated eyewitness on the bus who confirmed that she sustained an unprovoked “severe beating.”

Shear, an American-Israeli woman who currently lives in Canada, says that on a recent five-week vacation to Israel, she rode the bus daily to the Old City to pray at sunrise. Though not defined by Egged as a sex-segregated “mehadrin” bus, women usually sit in the back, while men sit in the front, as a matter of custom.

“Every two or three days, someone would tell me to sit in the back, sometimes politely and sometimes not,” she recalled this week in a telephone interview. “I was always polite and said ‘No. This is not a synagogue. I am not going to sit in the back.’”

But Shear, a 50-year-old religious woman, says that on the morning of the 24th, a man got onto the bus and demanded her seat – even though there were a number of other seats available in the front of the bus.

“I said, I’m not moving and he said, ‘I’m not asking you, I’m telling you.’ Then he spat in my face and at that point, I was in high adrenaline mode and called him a son-of-a-bitch, which I am not proud of. Then I spat back. At that point, he pushed me down and people on the bus were screaming that I was crazy. Four men surrounded me and slapped my face, punched me in the chest, pulled at my clothes, beat me, kicked me. My snood [hair covering] came off. I was fighting back and kicked one of the men in his privates. I will never forget the look on his face.”

Shear says that when she bent down in the aisle to retrieve her hair covering, “one of the men kicked me in the face. Thank God he missed my eye. I got up and punched him. I said, ‘I want my hair covering back’ but he wouldn’t give it to me, so I took his black hat and threw it in the aisle.”

‘Stupid American’
Throughout the encounter, Shear says the bus driver “did nothing.” The other passengers, she says, blamed her for not moving to the back of the bus and called her a “stupid American with no sechel [common sense.] People blamed me for not knowing my place and not going to the back of the bus where I belong.”

According to Yehoshua Meyer, the eyewitness to the incident, Shear’s account is entirely accurate. “I saw everything,” he said. “Someone got on the bus and demanded that she go to the back, but she didn’t agree. She was badly beaten and her whole body sustained hits and kicks. She tried to fight back and no one would help her. I tried to help, but someone was stopping me from getting up. My phone’s battery was dead, so I couldn’t call the police. I yelled for the bus driver to stop. He stopped once, but he didn’t do anything. When we finally got to the Kotel [Western Wall], she was beaten badly and I helped her go to the police.”

Shear says that when she first started riding the No. 2 line, she did not even know that it was sometimes sex-segregated. She also says that sitting in the front is simply more comfortable. “I’m a 50-year-old woman and I don’t like to sit in the back. I’m dressed appropriately and I was on a public bus.”
“It is very dangerous for a group of people to take control over a public entity and enforce their will without going through due process,” she said. “Even if they [Haredim who want a segregated bus] are a majority – and I don’t think they are – they have options available. They can petition Egged or hire their own private line. But as long as it’s a public bus, I don’t care if there are 500 people telling me where to sit. I can sit wherever I want and so can anyone else.”

Meyer says that throughout the incident, the other passengers blamed Shear for not sitting in the back. “They’ll probably claim that she attacked them first, but that’s totally untrue. She was abused terribly, and I’ve never seen anything like it.”

Word of Shear’s story traveled quickly after she forwarded an e-mail detailing her experience. She has been contacted by a number of groups, including Shatil, the New Israel Fund’s Empowerment and Training Center for Social Change; Kolech, a religious women’s forum; the Israel Religious Action Center (IRAC), the legal advocacy arm of the local Reform movement; and the Jewish Orthodox Feminist Alliance (JOFA).

In the coming month, IRAC will be submitting a petition to the High Court of Justice against the Transportation Ministry over the issue of segregated Egged buses. IRAC attorney Orly Erez-Likhovski is in touch with Shear and is considering including her in the petition.

Although the No. 2 Jerusalem bus where the incident occurred is not actually defined as a mehadrin line, Erez-Likhovski says that Shear’s story is further proof that the issue requires legal clarification. About 30 Egged buses are designated as mehadrin, mostly on inter-city lines, but they are not marked to indicate this. “There’s no way to identify a mehadrin bus, which in itself is a problem,” she said.

“Theoretically, a person can sit wherever they want, even on a mehadrin line, but we’re seeing that people are enforcing [the gender segregation] even on non-mehadrin lines and that’s the part of the danger,” she said.

On a mehadrin bus, women enter and exit through the rear door, and the seats from the rear door back are generally considered the “women’s section.” A child is usually sent forward to pay the driver.
The official responses

In a response from Egged, the bus driver denied that Shear was physically attacked in any way.

“In a thorough inquiry that we conducted, we found that the bus driver does not confirm that any violence was used against the complainant,” Egged spokesman Ron Ratner wrote.

“According to the driver, once he saw that there was a crowd gathering around her, he stopped the bus and went to check what was going on. He clarified to the passengers that the bus was not a mehadrin line and that all passengers on the line are permitted to sit wherever they want on the bus. After making sure that the passengers returned to their seats, he continued driving.”

The Egged response also noted that their drivers “are not able and are not authorized to supervise the behavior of the passengers in all situations.”
Ministry of Transportation spokesperson Avner Ovadia said in response that the mehadrin lines are “the result of agreements reached between Egged and Haredi bodies” and are therefore unconnected to the ministry.

A spokesperson for the Jerusalem police said the case is still under investigation.

11 10 2010
julietsm

Seems to me you are forgetting one very important difference.

They are not going to Europe and trying to impose their ways on the Europeans. We all know that Muslim is spread in only two ways, either conquest, or immigration. There is a specific Muslim term for it, but I forgot what it is.

I am quite certain you haven’t, though.
You are being quite disengenuous, Mr. Ahmed.

What we are discussing has nothing to do with the Israel. It’s like me trying to get my mother to ignore the fact that I broke the rules by pointing at that my brother did.

The issue is Islam.
Nice try.

12 10 2010
Aaron

There is a difference – Israel has equal rights for men and women enshrined in its constitution. Consequently, there are powerful women’s lobby groups which can react effectively to these incidents.

In the first case, of the elections for example, women’s groups have condemned the comments.

“Such talk is scandalous enough to call the rabbi for a clarification. I expect leaders of the religious public in Israel to condemn the rabbi’s instruction,” Nurit Tzur of the Israel Women’s Lobby said .

You can never completely abolish prejudices from a society, but you can have institutions in place to expose and challenge them. But in sh’aria, the definition of the rights themselves is different. Muslims view them as just, because they believe the qu’ran is perfect word of Allah. Unfortunately, in many muslim countries, men exploit their “divine rights” to a degree going far beyond what is specified in the qu’ran, and there are inadequate mechanisms for women to speak out, about domestic violence for example, because that would lead to further oppression and punishment. They are truly a disempowered group.

Jewish women in Israel are not systematically a disempowered group at all levels of society, as they are in, say, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Algeria or Somalia.
I don’t think there is anything controversial in this observation.

12 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

Inciting violence is immoral and illegal.

Antichrist Geert Wilders
For more: https://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/antichrist-geert-wilders

Greet Wilders of Indonesian mother and Dutch father is audaciously anti-Muslim and shamelessly pro-Israel similar to infamous Ayaan Hirshi Ali and “expired” Ershad Manji!

The Muslims are not burning Bible, Torah, … and I oppose such a barbaric and intolerant act by anyone! One must wonder why do we have a few hate merchants who are deliberately inciting hate against Muslims?! Who is intolerant and barbaric here? Who is inciting hate based on racism and sectarianism?

Does any Muslim trotting the globe and inciting hate against the Christians like Wilders? The answer is no.

Does any Muslim calling to behead the Catholics (an old practice of England) for the existence of 10% child molesters in the church? NO.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are Middle Eastern religions! Yet, somehow Islam is the target and alien religion.

Could you kindly let us know;
1. Which part of Quran permits Muslims to kill non-Muslims?
2. If anyone was killed simply for not being Muslim?
3. How many Muslims were stoned to death?
4. Why is it that when non-Muslims commit suicide, no one mentions anything about virgins or the afterlife?

Last year alone 40 000 farmers in India and 80 000 worldwide committed suicide! Did they do this to get virgins? Or is it the fact that these mostly non-Muslim farmers are not worthy of anything?

Geert, remove your prejudice and bigotry and answer me with evidence if you can.
Oh, the Jews of Messada! Why did they murder their own children and then committed suicide?

So why do you blame the Muslims about suicide contrary to Islamic teachings and statistics?

It is time to stop attacking Islam and Muslims unfairly. I know Greet Wilders is using “made in Israel” i.e. deliberate lies against Muslims. Please think very carefully, the Muslims are not attacking anyone’s religious believes or cultural sensitivities! So, why other people are attacking Muslims? Why Greet wilders loves Christ Killer Jaws? He loves to visit Zio-Nazis Israel. Is it true that Greet wilders is an Israeli puppet? Or simply is he an anti-Christ?

I respect Adam (PBUH), Abraham (PBUH), Mosses (PBUH), Jesus (PBUH), Mohammad (PBUH) and rest of them. However, you gas chamber bound lot are insulting Jesus (PBUH), Mohammad (PBUH), … with any excuse! However to test your sentiment and authenticity when I mentioned about the same treatment of Mosses you are calling me blasphemous!

Tell me, why Moses is superior to Mohammad or Jesus? I love to know why is Geert sucking up to the Zio-nazi Israel? Is it because he is a closet Zionist?

Geert, your illogical, irrational and racist outburst due to bone deep hate against Christian and Islam is blatant and disgusting.

No one got picture of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)! Yet, some cunning group of criminals created and published series of cartoons of so called terrorist Mohammed contrary to history and reality to incite people deliberately. They also made Piss Christ to offend Christians under the guise of fun and free speech. However, the same people find a half naked Moses (PBUH) sucking cock is ‘blasphemous! I hope we know now, who is behind all of these crimes and deliberate incitements!

Oh, without advent of Islam and Christianity, the Indians would have no choice but to become homosexuals today! Remember, it was the Muslims who influenced and saved Indian women from mass murders emanating from Satidaho, dowry and many other barbaric practices. Kopalkundola and many great works of Hindu reformers are only a few examples in support of my statement unlike false and fabricated anti-Muslim incitements of gutless Geert Wilders and your racist supporters due prejudice and bigotry. All of you are megabyte Nazis indeed.
You should be thanking the Muslims for saving millions from the yoke of infamous caste system.

For more please click this link if you like: Toxic Links and Zio-Nazi Crime Spree.

12 10 2010
King Bongo

Mr Ahmed, There isn’t another culture on earth that has attempted to adopt multiculturalism like the West has. Multiculturalism is not pluralism. They are very different indeed. Multiculturalism is to be Westernised. Muslims don’t get it. We tolerate those who are different if they do as the Romans do, while retaining their own identity. Muslims have the idiot Mohammed to thank for teaching them that they are superior to everyone is. This is intolerant and therefore incompatible with the West. The Europeans drove the Muslim out once before. The Germans started to drive the Jew out and the British and Americans completed the task retaking Jerusalem in the process.
You are misguided by your faith in your false prophet, and you are misguided in your arrogance that Europe can be your home without you first becoming Western.
The only prophet you need to heed is Mr Geert Wilders.

13 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

You are wrong as proven by this most valuable document.

“All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly.

Source: http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/sermon.html

14 10 2010
Ravi Ranjan Singh

I am a non-Westerner, I see nothing wrong if he is against migration, even if I am directly affected. He has every right to defend his country, culture, language and religion.
When migrants are trying to impose themselves.
When migrants go with open mind and respect Dutch values, even while enjoying religious freedom and back home habits, Geert has no problem.
Every country welcomes Asset Migrants and no one wants Liability Migrants.
For Jihadis they welcome none, but criminal cult fraternity.
Lets clearly distinguish between Humans and Jihadis.
Migrant humans and Migrant Jihadis

14 10 2010
Ingrid

Ravi, You speak truth so clearly.

15 10 2010
Rahat Khan

Ravi Ranjan Singh

Do you like to export Satidaho, dowry and caste system?

15 10 2010
Ingrid, infidel daughter of dog and pig

Shut up with your lies, Faruque.

15 10 2010
Ingrid, infidel daughter of dog and pig

(I meant shut up Faruque, aka Rahat Khan). Take it all back to Islamabad, or Syria, or Iran, where lies are worshipped and are an intrinsic part of your daily speech.
Our countries hold truth as necessary and good, looking down on those who lie without compunction, cause or shame.
Why are you here in the West?

15 10 2010
Rahat khan

Ingrid, time to have sex with daddy according to your tradition!

15 10 2010
julietsm

You may not burn Bibles, (but I suspect that is a lie) because I know you do not
permit the building of churches in your muslim nations. And yet you have built you filthy mosques all over the west.
Talk about a double standard.
The imam who wants to build the mosque at ground zero says ‘we want a place for open dialogue between muslims and non-muslims. Yeah, right. A non-Muslim can’t even get into Mecca – how about letting US build a CHURCH there for “open dialogue”. And the name of the Cordoba mosque – you think we’re stupid but we get that. You built a mosque right over the site of a cathedral which you tore down.
Now enough of you bullshit – we know history and we know what Islamofascism seeks to do.
I feel so sorry for your women – do you think if given a choice they would remain muslim?
NO WAY IN HELL.
They would be outta there and there would be a bunch of men sitting by themselves with nobody to tyrannise… (Because the women would take the children with them.)
You are vile and despicable and pedophiles and mysogenists.
Period.

15 10 2010
julietsm

The Jews at Massada killed their children and themselves because the Romans were going to kill them the following day.
They preferred to die by their own hand then by the soldiers who would have
done so.
If you knew any history you would know that, Ahmed.
If you dared to try to enforce Shariah on people you had captured, very likely they would prefer to die then live like you, especially as your servants.
Because we know ‘chopchopchop’ what you like to do to ‘infidels’.

Remove their heads from their necks.

16 10 2010
Disco Mowlana

Do You Call It Islamic Terrorism?
For more: Do You Call It Islamic Terrorism?

A. The Muslims are not burning anyone’s holy book.
B. The Muslims are not insulting anyone’s holy prophet.
C. The Muslims are not insulting and attacking other people’s religious values and sensibilities.

In fact, the non-Muslims are:
1. Burning Muslim holy book.
2. Insulting Muslim prophet.
3. Insulting and attacking Muslim religious values and sensibilities.
4. Initiating xenophobia, racism, sectarianism and all other forms of discrimination against the Muslims.

Ironically, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are Middle Eastern religion. Yet, Islam is treated as pariah!
Why is it so? Is it because the Muslims:
1. Did not conspire to murder Jesus?
2. Revere Jesus as a prophet?
3. Revere mother Marry?

The non-Muslims love to insult Prophet Mohammed! Is it because of his last sermon?

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.
Source: Last Sermon of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)

The non-Muslims love to launch sexual insult against Prophet Mohammed! Is it because of his declaration below?

O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under God’s trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.
Source: Last Sermon of Prophet Mohammad (PBUH)

Luckily, the Muslims are no devastated by endemic sexual scandals. The Muslims don’t have;
1. Fritz of Austria
2. Fritz of Australia
3. Fritz of USA.

Most importantly the Muslims are not confronting with tragedies like:
a. American women had sex with her son
b. Australian man had sex with his mother.

Should anyone dares to examine all messages of Geert Wilders Home, you may discover Geert Wilders and his supporters are using insanity and profanity, blatant prejudice and bigotry based on totally false and fabricated reasons and grounds! Wilders and his supporters’ fanaticism and anti-Muslim vendetta are illogical, immoral and ought to be illegal. Their vitriolic language, deliberation, style and application are dangerous to any society.

Most importantly, militant atheists love to insult Jesus (PBUH) and mother Marry. They find fun in Piss Christ! They also love to insult Mohammed (PBUH) and they made historically inaccurate and deliberately offensive cartoons!! However, they find a half naked Moses (PBUH) sucking cock is blasphemous!!! Surely, this gives away the origin and real stand point of these so called atheists i.e. they are closet Zionists. they are using free speech to

In short, do you call it Islamic Terrorism or Zionist Conspiracy?

For more: https://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/do-you-call-it-islamic-terrorism

16 10 2010
Ingrid

I also think they may burn Bibles, because they know that we worship another God, not Allah, and they call the countries that come from Biblical foundations (England, with its common law derived from it, etc.) the Great Satans, and Israel the ‘Little Satan’, so, I don’t see their reasoning about not burning bibles, they burn lots of our stuff.
And Amadinejad, I believe, was televised as holding the Bible up with HIS LEFT HAND, which is the worst filthy gesture a Muslim can do to anybody, it is the hand they use to wipe themselves after bowel movements.
Can you imagine, this hypocrisy they use to say ‘we don’t’…??? What an asshole he is.
And he held up the Quran of course, in his Right hand, saying, ‘the truth cannot be burned!’

What he said was true, the truth can’t be destroyed, but it can be hidden from the people, for a time, (like our countries have attempted to do), but – in the end, truth will prevail, and the Quran has nothing whatsoever to do with any truth.

16 10 2010
Ingrid

Exactly, Juliet.
and they love to torture people beforehand, a great deal, to degrade their spirit, bodies and destroy their strength of mind, completely, BEFORE they behead the poor victims.

They are completely taken over by EVIL SPIRITS.

17 10 2010
Rahat Khan

What Do You Think About The Dutch Judicial system?

The Dutch Judicial System – it is O.K. to hurt and Insult Muslims

For more: https://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/the-dutch-judicial-system—it-is-o-k-to-hurt-and-insult-muslims

Further to Do You Call It Islamic Terrorism? Over the last thirty years 99.96% European terrorism emanating from non Muslim sources. Yet, far too many people think that Muslim terrorists are hiding under the bed! This is how Israel controls your media and this is happening because 96 % of Worlds media is controlled by just zionist companies.

The Dutch Judicial System is clearly saying that it is O.K. to hurt and Insult Muslims.

mamubhi

17 10 2010
Chud America

Why Christian priests like little boys bums? Is it because of the following?

Mishnah: A girl of the age of 3 years and a day may be betrothed, subject to her father’s approval, by sexual intercourse.

17 10 2010
julietsm

Lies, lies, lies.
Christians are not catholics, first of all, and Christians do not have priests, second of all. And your statistic about 99.9% of all European acts of terrorism coming from non-Muslim sources: from where did you pull those figures? More lies.
Everything you write is a pantload; everything you say is a lie.
We know very well what it is that you muslims like to do, and I find it interesting that not one of you has addressed the issue of the mutilation of little girls.
Actually I DO know why you haven’t addressed it: there is nothing you could possibly say to justify such a heinous and terrible act.
You are a violent, mysoginistic and sadistic people who love to torture and hurt non-muslims.
You cannot deny that! It has been this way for centuries!
…And for the last time, catholics and Christians are two different things altogether.

KIng Bongo made very good points, if you want to live in the West you must first become Westerners. We do not live by your standards and we never will. If you want to live here so bad then you must adapt yourselves to OUR culture, because it is never going to happen the other way around.
Mr. Wilders knows this and has said many times that he has nothing against muslims: but he has everything against Islamofascism.
Learn to live as a Westerner and you will be welcome here.
Try to remain in the dark ages and try to get everyone else to live that way and you will be told to leave.
It’s just that simple.
Why do you cling to mysoginism? Why do you insist on mutilating your little girls? Why do hate the very people off of whom you live?
You are full of contradictions.
Mr. Wilders is my hero and I will support and follow him as long as he speaks out for what is right and proper.

If you do not learn to adapt then go home! The West will never accept your ways.
NEVER!
And you call US ignorant!

18 10 2010
Ingrid

Oh, THANK YOU, JULIET.
Bless you, infidel!

18 10 2010
Ingrid

Everything you said, needed to be said, and I am getting worn out.

18 10 2010
Ingrid

And you said it so clearly, so well, with passion, you make me cry. With relief and gratefulness.
Bless you again, juliet.

18 10 2010
Ingrid

Muslims:

Please welcome reality. Please carefully listen to: Wafa Sultan Defends Geert Wilders, its on UTube

Also see TheReligionOfPeace.com
and Former Muslims United.com

And those of us who are tired of being fed lies by our bullshit media please inform yourselves, no one else wants you to, except other infidels, we are the enemies of Allah and Islam, who they intend to destroy per their book, the Quran.

If you disagree with this, Muslims, then you are not Muslim.
You are then, an apostate, who ‘deserves’ death by stoning or beheading, after rape.
Please, get out of it. We weren’t meant to be treated this way by any evil Allah or that sadist pervert rapist murderer and destroyer of all truth and goodness, Mohammed. Renounce him, his evil and his God, Allah.
He is NOT YOUR CREATOR. Allah is in fact your very own personal brutal enemy. Because you are human beings, and therefore, HE HATES YOU ALL.
Stop obeying your destroyer’s lies.

18 10 2010
julietsm

Bless you too, Ingrid. I am so grateful that you see the truth too. I am worn out from trying to educate people about Islam and what it is really all about. It seems that the Leftists will never get it, don’t want to get it, and might never get it until a Jihadist comes along and takes their head off.
I agree with everything you say, too.
I have a Dutch friend who sent me the video of Wafa Sultan several months ago and I posted it on my FB page… When you said ‘watch this video’ I wanted to cry, knowing there is someone else out there who sees what I see and knows what I know…
We know that these people must be stopped. Everything they believe is a lie! I had to laugh when Ahmen called Wilders an ‘Anti-Christ’. No, he is an ‘Inti-Muslim’. Even Wafa Sultan, who knows very little about the Bible and Christianity, said that she was very touched by the life of Christ. Christ didn’t behead anyone, but Mohammed beheaded (according to the Q’uran) beheaded hundreds of Jews in one night, even raping the wife, daughter, and mother of some of those Jews.
How sick is that?
She says Islam cannot be reformed because there is nothing good in the Q’uran, nothing but hatred and murder and how to oppress women.
When she spoke of her neice who was forced at the age of 14 to marry her cousin (who was in his 40s) and eventually killed herself, my heart was torn. I do feel very bad for the Muslim women, who, if given the choice would run, run, run as fast as they could away from such oppression and violence.
Muslim men hold Mohammed the pedophile up as their idol, the murderous, treacherous and vile ‘prophet’ of Islam.

DEATH TO ISLAM.

18 10 2010
julietsm

Bless you too Ingrid, my infidel sister!
Let us never tire of teaching people the truth, though it does tire us… It is something that needs to be done, and it seems we are the ones who have been burdened with the need to do it, so let us continue, always, to speak up for the truth!

18 10 2010
julietsm

Khan:
You say that it’s ok to insult Muslims, according to the Dutch. Mr. Wilders is being tried for hate speech, but he will be aquited, mark my words.
Let me ask you something, do you think it’s right to issue death threats to Mr. Wilders?
Of course you do.
Because you know that Islam is WRONG and you know that he stands up for the truth, so you want to silence him the only way you know how: by KILLING HIM.
What I want to know is why all those boys on Youtube who have threatened Mr. Wilders life are not in court.
THAT’S what I want to know.
You think that we don’t see what you are doing, but we do. Ingrid and I are not the only ones who understand what is going on, believe me, and those people are spreading the truth the same way we are. Before you know it, the West will shut you out completely, because we are FREE and we enjoy being FREE and we will never bow to your phony god ‘allah’.
You will never accomplish you goal to impose Shariah on us. You might as well pack it up and go home now.

18 10 2010
Ingrid, daughter of pig and monkey

Thank you, my dear sister juliet!

I had to leave in a hurry as typing last response on antoher page, but got to return to see your kind replies to us here.

We really need your contributions, as you can see. From someone who really knows them, as you do. Everything you say is absolute truth.

Wow, thank you so much. For your support, your speaking out so clearly, passionately for the truth, and your spotlighting all those lies they continually spew on the ignorant, trusting West.

I also ask the same questions, frustration is my twin now, asking over and over, as you say, the answers – why our liberal colluders with the Islamic lies are not defending their ostesibly favorite freedom, freedom of speech – when it is this man’s right, who is having it denied him, facing prosecution, and no one here is ‘allowed’ to see this, because the media is bought and paid for? (Answer you gave: they don’t want to because – I think, they hate truth and love a lie, its a phenomenon, Biblically as you know, and must be a strange supernatural one because it goes against all logic and common sense and precedent in the free Western tradition) And also, why aren’t the screamers of ‘kill them’ and ‘We want ________ blood’ in court on criminal threat charges? – they declare this, a real threat, we’ve seen that, over and over – and our authorities simply pretend they don’t hear it! (it used to be a crime to do that. Apparently, not now, IF it comes out of Muslim lungs towards non-Muslims. Such cowards in our countries now! when and why has this law been silently abrogated?? This is a totally corrupt system.

I also know the women and children are total victims, and wish there were an easier more effective way to help them, out of Islam. If they stay in it, more misery continues, and more desruction of their minds, lives, bodies, souls. I wish the immigration would completely stop, unless the immigrants would pass lie detector test, and then, verify if they oppose the jihad. this would be immensely expensive, and they are very tricky. And then, interface with the families, to see if they really renounce it.

I know, that is a dream.
I know sometimes, I wish Iran and Syria and all those Islamic hellholes would be totally nuked. That would be the end of Islam in a big way, and we can’t help them all, who are innocent. This is a very bad predicament. but that’s why I spend this time, which I need to spend on other things, to try to get though to some, and you are really helping me now. Thank you Juliet, darling girl, and may Yah forever bless you and your loved ones.

If you feel like it, my email is wretchedinfidel@yahoo.com, I’d love to be friends, we seem to think on the same wavelength. I don’t get to a computer every day, but manage for past 2 months to, since finding out about Geert Wilders in August! (Ignorant, like the rest of Americans).

It followed then, after a couple weeks, hearing Wafa Sultan, (what an indescribably unique and strong woman, and bless her, coming from Islam!! See – you are right, we can’t give up! this is a fight, to the death, and we fight against the powers of darkness, spiritual wickedness in high places.
There are so many more who need to know these and need help. How can we help them? I guess we start here. Thank you for encouragement. You are a truly compassionate woman, and sometimes I am so angry at all of them, angrier than a human should ever have to be! then, I realize, it is the power of that evil being against us, Halleil, (Allah, Mohammed, demons of evil), which are so against the truth, and people, and people coming out of their evil and learning the truth, and living in joy and health and safety.

I was once raised a little Lutheran kid! Like you, except the other way round, a bit, because my grandmother who was Swedish and German, (a little Jewish she thinks, from the German father), taught me things from the Old Testament (Torah) that she learned were for forever, for all people. Muslims think they are more special and religious, because they learned that they shouldnt’ have certain foods (bad for health, spirit) from the Jews, which is of course, true. But look what they did with it – they spew such hatred from their mouths and spirits, they would be so much better off, to be eating pork continually, and anything else, and be kind to others. Satan loves to get people where it really counts most. But so, I became Jewish, in lots of ways. but they won’t accept me, because I accept the Messiah, of the Bible, (not the Catholic traditional Christ/Messiah figure). I’m so glad I had that grandmother to study those things, and wish everyone had one like that. I hope and pray that all people will be protected from the enemy we are fighting, its certainly not fun or easy, is it, but – what really important war is??
I hope Mr. Wilders is keeping up his strength, and his darling lawyer Bram Moskowitz too. Let’s pray for them, tonight big time, shall we, together, and then, better things will come of it.

May Yahu bless you richly, infidel sister, and all other apostates out there, we are with you in spirit. Right now and always!

Infidels and apostates, take courage. You are beloved, no matter what happens.
It is not Yah’s will what happens here on this earth. We’re in enemy territory. We must take strength from truth and each other. Bless all of you, and our King, Geert, and Queen, Wafa Sultan! Long live the Infidel rebellion! Infidels and truth FOREVER!

Thank you again, Juliet!
Ravi, are you OK? We miss you here.
White man, Steven Burger (Burgess, Steynian, Christian, Tamara, Greg, King Bongo, and everyone that I can’t remember right now thank you for your defense of our hero Geert Wilders)

18 10 2010
julietsm

Dearest Ingrid,
Jesus said it best (as in all things) “It is more important what comes out of a man’s mouth than what goes into it”.
Amen!
Yes, better to eat pork ever day of your life than to spew lies and corrupt the Word of God. This is Biblical; that to twist the Word of God is one of the worst sins a person can commit… And this is exactly what Islam has done. And it is also true that they think that Ishmael was the child through which the entire world would be blessed when we KNOW it was Isaac, the child born of the promise through which the world would be blessed through Jesus Christ our Lord.
I am Jewish and Hispanic, but both of my parents were atheists. They even took me to see a psychiatrist because they thought I was crazy when I told them that God spoke to me, which he did on many occasions. But God taught me how to love and forgive those who have wronged me, not to hate and murder those who do not believe the way I do. God said not to fear men who could harm the body but then do no worse, but to fear the One who has both our bodies and souls in His Hands…
I consider myself a Protestant, and the God I worship has done nothing but good things for me throughout my life. He is the True and Living God and His Son our Messiah, the Mediator between God and man, who lives to intercede for those who belong to Him.
I love the way that Wafa Sultan (even though she is not a Christian) can CLEARLY see that He is nothing like the liar Mohammed pedophile and murderer… She said she loves the way He taught men to love one another and He certainly never beheaded anyone nor did he teach his disciples to do so. The differences between Jesus and Mohammed are so patently obvious that only one who loves lies and darkness is unable to see that they are not in any way alike, and yet the Muslims love to pretend that they revere Jesus. But they refuse Him as the Son of God… Jesus never let there be any doubt – He never left any room for doubt; He said “I and the Father are One” and He said “Those who love the truth are on My side”. There is no way that anyone could mistake him for a prophet. What did he prophesy? He went around healing people and forgiving sinners and saving people… He was PERFECT. He was the one prophesied ABOUT. Mohammed, on the other hand, lived to conquer and force Islam on people; either accept Allah or die, while Christians would prefer to die themselves than to take the life of another. Jesus even taught us to love our enemies!
However, in the case of Islam and its adherents, this is certainly a challenge! How can we love men who would mutilate the genitalia of little girls, making them into the equivalent of Stepford Wives. You KNOW those women, if they could, would get so far away from Muslims that they would leave dust in their wake…
It has been my very great honour to fight shoulder to shoulder with one who knows the truth, not only about Islam but about the True God, the Living God who is a very real presense in our lives. I never thought when I began commenting here that I would meet such a woman as you, and you have given me much strength when at times I have been very drained… Indeed, let’s do pray for Mr. Wilders, our hero, and also for Wafa Sultan, the lovely woman who is testifying to the truth on his behalf.
This is something else which greatly disturbs me; that Muslim women have been brainwashed and don’t have the opportunity to learn the truth.
I have great compassion for them, and I pray that God intervenes in their lives and gives them their freedom, the freedom from lies and abuse and the freedom to know and love the True God.
Yes, we are indeed in enemy territory, where the pretender sits on the throne, but we must take heart that there will come a day when every knee with bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
On that day we will rejoice, not only because at last we can be in His presense forever and that evil will be forever wiped out, but we can rejoice in the knowledge that those adherents of Islam who have done such vile and reprehensible acts will recieve justice at last.
I can’t wait to see the looks on their collective faces when they learn that ‘allah’ is none other than satan, the enemy of God, and that they have willingly and joyfully served him.
They will share his fate and be forever separated from all that is good, all that is righteous, and all that is holy, just as they are separated from those things now.
The difference of course will be their eternal damnation instead of their unbearable egos thinking that they are the strongest and therefore the superior ones… “For God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong and the things that are not to shame the things that are”. (Literally, God loves the meek and humble and gives grace to them, but the arrogant have nothing toi expect but punishment, at last, for the heinous acts they have commited against Him and His people.
My email address is silmalila@comcast.net and yes, Ingrid, it is my very great honour to be your friend. I have great love for the brethren and great love for those who love the truth and despise the liars of this world, those who think they are better than the seekers of truth and lovers of the Lord.
Let us pray always that more and more people will daily come to the knowledge of the truth, let us seek to open their eyes and teach them the truth about our enemies, those who serve the ruler of this world.
We know who the TRUE King is, and we serve Him and Him only.
Islam will never usurp the true faith, God will never allow that.
I believe He is giving them enough rope to hang themselves… And on that day, we shall rejoice!
Your Sister Infidel,
Juliet

21 10 2010
wretched ingrid of the infidel camp

My darling sister of the Infidels Juliet!

I am so sorry that I missed coming here and talking to my friends, I have been bedridden for a couple days now, am recuperating, so you must have been praying for me.
Thank you my dear girl, may Yah of the Universe keep all of us safe and bless us with everything he wants us to have and know. Juliet, you are a remarkably clear and powerful woman. You are in reality, a queen who knows she is one!
bless all the infidel sisters and brothers who haven’t even known this, that they were born to be this – because that is Yah’s plan for all of us, his sons and daughters. I cried when you said what you said, because you get it all and you say it so right, and you my sister, to be my friend, forever is my great honour and I thank Yah for you in the world. You are a precious pearl beyond price.
Thank you.
I don’t know what’s going on now, with any of this trial, or news. Have any of you been on Klein Verzet yet, to see and hear the trial clips?

I really love that guy who puts that up, over there, wish I’d found it sooner than about a week ago, when the first trial day clip was enfuriating. But it seems that Geert’s truth is not able to be suppressed any more, in the court, it seemed a couple of days back when I saw the later clips, that the judges that were being hateful and unfair to the case/Geert/his lawyer/the truth, were reading the expert testimonies with an air of soberness, or quiet shock, like they were inwardly wholly taken aback – this truth they were reading (being made to read, they weren’t even going to do that, unless his defense lawyer Bram Moskowitz requrested the testimony of the 3 witnesses they did allow him to bring to be read in full – so they had to, really (after refusing to let their testimony be on live/TV!, which would have brought down the house!! – they knew that!)

They wanted to shut it all up, cover it all up, all the truth, all the experts on islam and Muslims as witnesses were denied, others (all but the 3 of the 18 he called, the court denied him!!)

but they seemed to be seriously humbled as they were reading, they knew what was happening.

Paradigm shift – – reality landslide.

I wil have to leave in a few minutes, and will try to come back later, I am not quite well yet, (a confluence of everything I allowed to make myself sick from the stress).

There is another thing. I was last here happy saying goodnight, a few days back, at the latest news, and thought only of that, but – with everything we know about Islam, we thought we knew the worst, and it is the worst – but there is HORROR AGAIN which I had been told about by a friend. I heard about a thing they do over there with sexually ruining and destroying their young boys. by rich men, who are devils in human bodies who are raping little and young and teen age boys, as they are so very evil, and no one speaks about it, it is part of the Muslim culture.

I had experienced this knowledge for a couple of years, and didn’t hear about it again, but remembered it. then, finding out about it made me sick literally, ill, and I couldn’t even function. It is real. It is happenign. They are doing this. In many countries, Muslim countries only, it seems, because, I guess, they are completely taken over by strong strong evil. Why haven’t we seen or heard any of this?? this is well known in our army, over there, for instance in Afghanistan, even now, all this time, and do we hear anything about it?
How is the United States supposed to be a moral force when they are not telling us the facts about these atrocities?

I am still sick, we must do something. does anyone have any ideas. giving people information willl be a must, but that is so slow. We must organize better, I will try to give you some websites which will help us to do this. I’m thinking Oprah. and the like, she would be touchy, because while she has a special strength of empathy for children being raped, she also is a staunch supporter of Obama, who is Muslim. so – I don’t know, but we must try. I will try to be back later to list some resources.
One resource is Why MULTICULTUALISM IS A FRAUD. It is giving news from around the world about Muslims’ crimes towards humanity, and if you print it all out, it comes out bigger print, not as tiny as on the click-ons you see in blue on the headings of each item, so its easier to read on paper.

Juliet, thank you so very very much, I will love you forever, my own dear sister. You must be an angel, you are.

All Infidels and Brave ones, Apostates of the World, we are not alone.
this is a war and we do not fight alone.

We are together, all in spirit, take heart be of good courage – Your Maker loves you, made you and is watching you, and the emenies of His beloved humans are on their last stretch, may He keep you all safe and bless you all, your reward is now in existence, and continues to be made, you will see it and live it, forever.
Praise Yah of the Universe, and may His King come back to us soon.

22 10 2010
Ingrid

Wow, Juliet, Wow. I am going to pray for you to get immediately well. I think we are in a spiritual battle from doing this. Thank you for praying for me, because I am all well now. Weak without any energy, just couldn’t do anything, even walking hurt. I was here all day that last day trying to keep up, finally leaving at almost closing, happy that the prosecutors were wanting to drop (find him not guilty on all those false charges). Went and collapsed on a couch, and woke up sick too!
It just may be stress, we expend a lot of energy here in angst, it hits in our gut, our soul, involves the spirit, so affects our bodies. I have read before that every thought we feel affects our bodies, physically. So the emotions we feel, especially if is strong emotions, and if very very negative ones, (like I want to save them, then realize they won’t be saved, then, find out about the child rapes (the little boys, and older boys, and now I want to nuke them all before those devil people do that again to a poor child who will be destroyed by that evil being done to them) so then, with that kind of anger, and helplessness, our bodies will naturally probably become ill, it is so overwhelmingly strong – has to have a large stress on every cell of our bodies. Especially when we feel we are helpless to help them, to stop it.
Anger – it is a power dynamic, without it, we wouldn’t care about anything – I am so glad that I met you, that you are out there, and now, Yes, what you said about making a website, I wished that I knew how to do that, but I can send you information, and try to learn how to do it. I have thought about that for a long time. If we do that, Juliet, I am sure many people over there will read it, and secretly love it. All those women, will begin thinking. But it does take too long. If we influence the people who are free, non-Muslims, who will pressure congress, parliament, governments about the problem – this latest one which I have learned too much about to believe, is being ignored – child rapists are being ignored! They only don’t worship an ancient one, but they are doing it now on a large scale, to boys! How can our governments ignore that, if we make an outcry and do not stop!?

I especially came in to talk with you my dear Juliet, cause I didn’t get back here yesterday like I had thought. Have you been over to the Klein Verzet site, they have the clips that I haven’t seen all of. I can’t understand how a gay judge could ever support those people. You must be right, nothing else makes sense. And also, when you feel that they are going to be in for something in a big way, for collusion with this insane evil doctrine, which hurts innocent people. Gay people usually aren’t affiliated with any organized religion, and so why be FOR these religious people who want to kill them for being who they are, because of the leading cruel spirit of their religion? None of this makes sense. Blinded, as you say. But it seems like blindness, simply not understanding, couldn’t make them so pernicious, so twistedly evil against obviously well-intentioned people. No one could be more chivalrous, compassionate than this man, Geert Wilders is so obviously fair and kind. He is for the gays’ rights and safety, he defends their right to be safe in the streets! And women! So what’s that woman standing up and sauntering out of the court in objection to seeing his documentation of the ones who want to kill her for no scarf?? Can’t they listen to his words, doesn’t it get through? Is this blindness also an evil that they have, like a solid wall of refusal to be reasonable and logical?

Is he the same one as the judge (dark hair, glasses) who has the side job, a direct link to a Moroccan enterprise? Did you see on Klein Verzet, the clip of the first day, with that incident of the woman who said she didn’t want to see the screening of Fitna, and what the hypocritical judge said?

This is an insane world, an insane time we are living in. It says in the Bible, somewhere that we who live now in the last generation seeing all these things and experiencing all this tribulation, are blessed.

Sometimes when I’m wishing I lived back with my children and friends and animals in the 1700’s or 1800s, or way farther back, before everything got this weird, and dangerous, sinister things like governments colluding with our destroyers, that in the bible, it is said that we who live in this generation which is messed up like no other before in history, that we are specially blessed to be the ones living now, in it. There is a special blessing to being here now. Perhaps their perverted refusal to be logical and well, human, is a sign of how devoid of humanity the people have become in this generation, it is not natural. Sodom and Gomorrah, as evil as they were, wanting to rape every stranger who came into those places, by the evil lot of them, is said to be mild compared to this time. Sodomy was the thing then, human evil with demonic visitations, and sodomy is the thing in the Muslim countries. there is a sinsiter evil a very pernicious vile evil in doing that, it’s the worst thing – this evil crime which is commonplace and accepted by the Muslim hordes over there is being completely blacked out by our media, who should be on top of reporting human rights violations. Especially when they are doing it to children, all the time. They are evil sprits of Satan in human bodies, and the people know this and live with this horror! What must they think of us? The big, strong USA ignores all their suffering?

Yah help them. There is something about the Name of Yah that when said out loud, a book about the sound physics of that name, IAUE, when one worships that Creator Spirit, has an intense effect on every cell of our DNA! The man who wrote it I think his name was Goldberg, but he really doesn’t worship Yah, I believe, he just was aware that that name has that effect on our DNA!!!
It was like a mystical exploration, yet, he doesn’t really get it, that Yahueh is our Real Father!! and he said to them, to teach everyone, who came to them and asked, who do you worship (except that they didn’t, tragically, they gave Yah up, as He said, for the worship of Baalim) to tell them Who, and how, and then, everyone in the whole world would learn of Yahu and then, worship him, and everyones’ DNA would be charged like its supposed to, and every other blessing. I am very weak, but this is amazing, to just know, and we should use it, and pray in it. That’s what He made us for, to commune with him, without this communion, with that Spirit who made us, we are in a void, our bodies and spirits are without that supercharging communing and life-giving strengthening and nothing is as it should be.

May Yah help us all to do what we have to do. I also want to do what you want to do, Juliet. You are giving me a much hope! Thank you my dearest sister! May Yahueh (IAUE, Yah, IaHu) bless you, and your loved ones, and make you well, strengthen you and your body, and keep our defender Geert safe and well, his lawyer, Bram Moskowitz, and all the infidels here, and all the victims and helpless ones over there who need rescuing. Thank you Yah. let it be done.

Let me get some websites for you and everybody to see what’s going on about this

22 10 2010
Ingrid

Besides Trencherbone who reported the rape of baby Neeha,

there is this: theprovince.com

Former Canadian Soldier Speaks Out Against disgusting child Rape in Afghanistan

see that poor man’s eyes
He has seen hell

and Afghan Police Sodomize Youth Males Every Thurday Night
at planetearthpeaceparty.com

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