Interview with Bosma of Geert Wilders’ PVV party in Holland.

4 10 2010

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5 10 2010
1389AD

If you haven’t seen Geert Wilders’ Fitna, The Movie, you can view it HERE.

5 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

I would like to know Israel lover Wolders view about the following!

“In everything, we are destroyers–even in the instruments of destruction to which we turn for relief…We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands.” – Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, pages 152, 155, and 147.

5 10 2010
Ingrid

You can’t face the truth, can you Faruque?
Why is it that you’re such a wimp?
taking crazy quotes from books out of context, off the subject at hand, which is about Geert Wilder’s right to speak the truth in his own land, is only showing you to be a crazed hateful lunatic Muslim who defends criminality like murder of innocents and child rape.

5 10 2010
Ingrid

You can’t even try to defend your criminal prophet, so you avoid and divert and blame with illogical condemnation. You have a mind that is seriously insane. I will not talk with you any more until you get a backbone and show that you have an iota of interest in actual truth.
Answer my questions about Mohammed’s crimes and tell us how you defend those atrocities.
Or, if you avoid that continually as you have been doing, you show that you wholly agree with those crimes and are one criminal, sadistic pervert like him.

5 10 2010
zaki

Geert Wilders is the greatest man in holland…. READ THE QURAN you will support him for sure. the english quran is not the same like it is in arabic version .( kill is not fight ) as example.
im arabic egyptian

6 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

Ingrid and zaki

The following venoms are not from Quran! They are from Wilders lord Jews and their books! Do you have the guts to challenge them or will you be barking like rabid dog?

“A Jew to receive a high place in heaven if he kills a Christian”. –Zohar (L, 38b, 39a).

“If Jew kills a Christian he commits no sin”. –Sepher Or Israel 177b

6 10 2010
Max

Why is it, you cannot find a single muslim who is prepared to have an open debate about his or any other religion, any where in the world? When a muslim is asked to explain specific texts in the qu’uran, there is always a tendency to fudge, but you never can get a straight answer. With an unprecented rate of migration and under the guise of Abrahmic faith, Islam has made a big inroad in the west. I am very glad that the Europeans are finally waking up to the danger. The road ahead is going to be difficult. They are already inside the door. They must intergrate and become loyal Dutch, German or Danish citzens. There is no other option if you want to retain your cultural, national identity and uniqueness. Islam must never be allowed to be used as a political weapon in Europe. If you achieve that it will be the greatest achievement of the 21st century. Good luck Geert!

6 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

Hold your insanity, prejudice and bigotry max! Stand up against you Israeli lords’ child molestation.

“Rabbi Joseph said, ‘Come and hear. A maiden aged 3 years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition.’

Mishnah: A girl of the age of 3 years and a day may be betrothed, subject to her father’s approval, by sexual intercourse.

You are trying to hide your insanity and profanity by screaming and shouting like uncivilised and uncultured manner.

http://warandhatebecauseofisrael.blogspot.com/2008/03/ugly-jews-dirty-and-cruel-judaism.html

6 10 2010
Ingrid

Completely, Max. Well said. It is so obvious, that is why it is so inexplicably insane that most Muslims refuse to accept that which is obvious. I believe it is caused by the religion itself, causing a block/inability due to a pathology of conditioning by trauma, or some very powerful evil. Have you ever seen a table full of Muslim men trying to discuss something rationally? It is also due to the Arabic language, which syntax causes difficulty for the human brain to be logical and think clearly. A woman Sania Hamady wrote that in a book called the Character of the Arabs, or something close to that. I was married (well, I thought so) to a Muslim, and everything she said in that book was true of him, it was as though I was reading about him, except he was truly thoroughly pathological, a true psychopath in every sense of the word.
This man is saying similar things, but not as bad. He also said, ‘All Americans and Jews should be killed’. And he meant it.

6 10 2010
Ingrid

Faruque, I said I wouldn’t talk to you any more til you answered those questions. I have answered your first ones in somewhere here.
But this harping on the crimes of some ancient Rabbinical oral teachings is getting so old, and it has nothing to do with this subject, you are diverting our attention from the crimes that are going on today, and always have been, since the demonic visions of Mohammed. Everyone knows that no Jews are committing those crimes, it was a specific evil of a small cabal of unbiblical, Torah-rejecting Rabbis, who were condemned by Yahushua for doing things that were not even so much as mentioned by the Gentiles. They made their own laws, superimposing them above the Biblical. They were mean to their people, causing them misery. It is not the Bible. It is ancient. On the subject at hand, Geert Wilders’ right to speak and express his concerns of his own countrymen, and address his issue: Muslims have a child-raping prophet. Muslims will not (you included?) usually reject him for that. Muslims today and always are bound by oath to Allah to follow Mohammed’s words. Muslim men are raping both girls and boys – little, very small babies, (baby Neeha, just 2 1/2 comes to mind, the poor child), girls like Aisha, (6), his favorite ‘wife’, whose lives are always tormented, ruined by these horrendous beasts. Child rape is sanctioned by Islamic governments, it is done by men on holiday, temporary marriage. Completely legal by Islamic law.
Do you think that is right? Face the facts, Faruque, and stop lying about the issue. The Jews treat their children well. No one does what those Rabbis taught way back then in the traditional teaching. On the other hand, your Muslims are the ones killing, beheading, slitting, crushing, raping, (children and women, and men), and generally horribly abusing in every way anyone who is female, underage, helpless, or infidel.
Bad things have been done by every religious group. But all of it is condemned in the Bible. Even that has been tampered with, edited, and augmented. It is said that is our duty to find out where and discover the truth. This is not easy. But it is said to be every man’s duty. You are not even trying. You cannot really call yourself a man, Faruque, until you do. Your women and your fellows are relying on you, to do that, to be brave and step up, after you look into your religion, and ask yourself why are following such a horrid person, who obviously lied to you. Do it. And stop casting ancient blame on us here, we don’t do that. See what’s happening today. That is the problem.

6 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

Zionised Islmophobes,

The Americans are worse than anyone! They are killing the Arabs and Muslims including their own children for Israel.

Iraq Was Invaded to Secure Israel,’ Says Senator Hollings
By Mark Weber
July 16, 2004
Source: https://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/iraq-a-war-for-israel

Cheney: Iraq pullout would hurt Israel
By • March 25, 2007
https://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/iraq-pullout-would-hurt-israel

Invasion of Iraq is an act of Terrorism
https://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/invasion-of-iraq-is-an-act-of-terrorism

To cover up the Israeli Holocaust in the occupied Palestine
http://mondediplo.com/1998/09/04said

You lots are no different either! You and your leader Wilders are in love with Israel because their forefathers conspired to murderer Jesus! Even today, they insult Jesus and mother Marry!!

Your and American behavior prove the followings are correct.

“Nations will gather together to bring their homage to the people of God; the whole fortune of nations will pass into the hands of the Jewish people, they will march behind the Jewish people, in chains as captives, and will prostrate before it.” – Isador Loeb, Le Probleme Juif.

“We Jews have spoiled the blood of all the races of Europe. Taken as a whole, everything is Jewdified. Our ideas animate everything. Our spirit reigns over the world. We are the Lords.” – Dr. Kurt Munzer, The Way to Zion.

“In everything, we are destroyers–even in the instruments of destruction to which we turn for relief…We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands.” – Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, pages 152,

Source: http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/pre-contemporary-jewish-quotes-about-non-jews

6 10 2010
Ingrid

I forgot to address the issue about the Catholic Church’s ignoring and apparently, (obviously) unoficially sanctioning the rape of children and teens. This is happening today, and we denounce it. Anyone who still supports that Church is not honest, or fighting for the children. Yes, not every priest or deacon is doing it, or agrees with it. It is a phenomenon, caused again, like in the Islamic religion, of evil which happens when the truth is ignored and people are adulated. That is why I will not attend church, Faruque. I cannot and will not be a part of that. Going to Church or Mass is tacit approval of the evil it has covered up, for centuries and more, and this particular horrible abuse is evil to the core. When you forbid men from the natural thing, marriage and love with a woman they love and respect, bad things happen in a controlled unnatural environment, not only that, but the Christ figure they have is historically a boy-woman figure, (Bacchus, etc.) who is not the Biblical one. If the model of the Messiah-figure is sexually ambiguous, (gay/bi, does it with both sexes), then the priests of that religion will tend to get involved with that. Nothing is natural in celibacy. It is not bilical. RAbbis have to be married, so Yahushua, the Biblical messiah, the real one, had to be married, it would seem we haven’t got the real truth of all that, there is evidence too. However, this isn’t the issue, just that the Catholic Church, like Islam is not based on the natural model and screws up the priesthood, which ends in abuse of the people under them. I think we all know that, and that is why so many Caholics are now disillusioned, disenfranchised, angry, despondent, and against all things religious. Becuase abuse by religion has those effects. But there is truth out there, and we are required to seek it out. It is not that easy, but it is not that difficult. You need to, Faruque, your Creator will require this of you, and all the words you say here will be too. Stop attacking, start searching.
If you need help where to start, I’ll help you. I have little hope for you, but there is always hope if you have a human being and a will. Nothing now in any religion is as it should be, or we wouldn’t be having all these problems. That means that we are all doing things wrong. This is our mission. We are human beings. It is up to us, to read and study what is right, and what is wrong. Please do it, and stand up for what you find is truth. It is not Islam, it is not killing innocents (or infidels) it is not rape, not lies and not oppression. It is the opposite of all of that.

6 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

Why does Wilder loves “Christ Killer” Jews and loathes Muslims? It is a valid question and I am not patronising you.

Who Is a True Jew?

If you got an open mind then I have got news for you!

According to Jewish, Christian and Muslim documents true Jews do not exist!
Do you know what are they? Are they following some cults other than Judaism?

When Moses went to free the Jews from the Pharaohs captivity, he was scared of Egyptian magic (similar to US high tech?). God said to Moses, “don’t be afraid, throw your stick and witness your God’s power”. ……… .

Moses convinced the Pharaoh and freed his people! Moses parted the Arabian Sea and freed the Jews from slavery. Then Moses went to speak to God and thank him for saving his people. God said to Moses, “do you know what are your people doing”? Moses said, “they are praying for you”. God said, “go and find out”.
Moses went to his people and found, only his brother Aaron and a couple of people were following him and the rest of them were drinking, gambling, fornicating, praying to golden sheaf, ….

Now, please tell me who is a real Jew? I say so despite the fact that I am willing to respect all religion and tolerant to all cultural sensitivities.

Source: https://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/who-is-a-true-jew

6 10 2010
Ingrid

Well, I am relieved to see Faruque, that you do read some times. This is very good.
OK, aside from the obvious designation of a member of the tribe of Judah, Yahudah, that is, (no J existing), a true person of the knowledge of Yah, (being the meaning of the word Judah/Yahudah), would necessarily mean one who: is knowledgable/having the true knowledge of the Being Who named Himself, Yahueh/Yahuah/Yahuweh/IAUE, (the 4 Hebrew vowels corresponding to the English vowels IAUE which Joesphus noted seeing around the Mitre of the Priests heads at that time). This is an important thing to be, in the Bible. Many people go astray from the truth revealed there, throughout history, which is tragic – Jews, Christians, those who profess Yahudah, (knowledge of Yah), everyone. But that is our nature, we will fall, but He – Yah – knows we are all weak, destined to fall in this life at many places, times, and He told in the Bible that he knows our hearts, sees the inward man, the things that he thinks in his heart, not only professes, and this is what he notices he loves: a man of a teachable (meek) spirit, one who is humble before his Creator and with his fellow man/woman/children, treats animals kindly, is not arrogant, is not proud, will be willing to reason, be reasonable, and learn, keeping what is true, proving all things, and rejecting what is bad.
Is there any wish in you Faruque to read further and discover more of that truth? I hope so. I hope and believe all things are possible, if we only want to bad enough. Pray to your Creator, Faruque. Listen to the man who is called Christian, he really loves humanity. That is your Creator’s love for you being expressed to you now.
Do not be afraid of facts, Faruque. They are not going to lead you to hell, only the lies will. This is what you were born to do: feret out the facts, reveal and expose the lies, and reject them, and discover more and more truth. Do not busy yourself with hatred you learned by a hating, possessed liar named Mohammed. He wants to have you parrot his lies, do his evil god’s will, and so that you ruin more and more of Yah’s plan and people, which includes you, you are in his plan and you are his people. You were born for better than you think, than you are now still entrenched in. He will help you to get out of it, just ask Him, and he will help you in anything, every step of the way you take to honour him and his truth, he notices.

6 10 2010
Ingrid

Do you notice that in Europe, they are much more thoughtful and informed than we see here in America? I wish there were some host/hostess who would have an interview like this with Geert Wilders, but here, they will not even allow one word to be spoken about him, or air any of his speeches, or his cause, or allow him or any of his supporters (all would, if they knew this issue), to speak even a word!

I hate that. We in America do not have a free press, we are not free, becuase we do not know, and we are kept from knowing the facts, by those who profess to be our leaders.

6 10 2010
Ingrid

We might as well be all living in Syria, Iran, Iraq, or Saudi Arabia, with this censorship.

7 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

In order to murder the free speech the Zio-Nazis invented anti-Semitism and Greet Wilders has opted to bend backward to the Christ Killer Jews. ! Ugly Jews conspired to murder Jesus, they do not recognise Jesus, insult mother Marry. However, the Muslims respect Jesus and mother Marry.

By the way, it was the Muslims and the Arabs who were responsible for the European Renaissance, free thinking and free speech!

Who Is a Semite?

Further to Do You Know Who Is a True Jew? and What is a Judeo-Christian culture?; can we establish who is a Semite?

Sem•ite (s m t ) KEY NOUN:

A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
A Jew.

Bible A descendant of Shem.

A group of people who falsely claim to be Jew and they may not have even 0.1% Semitic blood or mixed with hundreds of European bloods can not be a true Semite!

Anyway, under what law, moral or authority a Semite is superior to non-Semites?!

Source: https://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/who-is-a-semite

7 10 2010
Ingrid

We are not racist here, Faruque.

Neither is Geert Wilders, that is where your first question above, which I forgot to answer yesterday, is based on a wrong premise. Geert Wilders is against racism, he is not racist, he is not Nazi, he is not bigot, he is for all of humanity, anyone who means to be decent, and is under oppression and tyranny, he tries to help.
He is not against Muslims, as a people, but their beliefs and actions of hatred and intolerance towards any disagreement with the Quran is what he is alarmed about, as they killed his friends, Theo van Gogh, just a few years back, and Pim Fortuyn, yell at women in the streets, scream for his Danish brethren’s blood, (for a citizen drawing his opinion in his own land, he is free to do so), he does not love all Jews, as he does not love all native Holland citizens, it is not a matter of people as groups, he is even-handed, fair, people are people, good and bad, he is against Nazism, against totalitarian regimes, and against tyrannists’ intimidation of his fellow native people.
What is wrong with any of that.

7 10 2010
Ingrid

No one said any semite was superior over others, Faruque, where do you get that? We do not believe that, no one does, because it cannot be true. People are people, no matter where they come from, it is individual, completely.

7 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

“The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people.” – Le Peuple Juif, February 8,1919.

“The governments of the peoples included in this world republic, with the aid of the victorious proletariat, all will fall without difficulty into Jewish hands. Private property will then be strangled by the Jewish directors, who will administer the state patrimony everywhere. Thus the promise of the Talmud will be fulfilled, that is, the promise that the Jews, at the arrival of the Messiah, will possess the key to the wealth of all the peoples of the earth.” – Baruch Levy, in a letter to Karl Marx, published in the Rothschild controlled La Revue de Paris, June 1, 1928.

“We Jews have spoiled the blood of all the races of Europe. Taken as a whole, everything is Jewdified. Our ideas animate everything. Our spirit reigns over the world. We are the Lords.” – Dr. Kurt Munzer, The Way to Zion.

“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail”

— Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]”
http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/contemporary-jewish-quotes-about-non-jews

Above are only four examples of Jewish supremacy.

No one knows the picture of Prophet Mohammad. Someone deliberately drew a picture contrary to history so that weak people will react incorrectly, … . I do not wish to insult Jesus. However, someone created “Piss Christ”!

So in the name of free speech they had ‘terrorist Mohammad. In the name of fun they have Jesus Christ in the urinal!

Now, can we have a half naked Moses sucking cock to test the free speech? I bat not. The superior people will fix you up.

Now, lets’ start from here.

7 10 2010
Ingrid

You are blasphemous. I will not talk to you any more. You are utterly sold out to your evil God, Allah.
Moses was a good man.
You apparently hate him and anything good.
Mohammed is proven by Islamic sources to be a vile evil human being.
Evil people do horrible blasphemous things, and you are just as evil, saying that, as the miscreant blaspheming evil pervert who did that with our tax money, which is something that our country will be punished for allowing.

7 10 2010
Bunc

It is vital that people support Geert Wilders – his film fitna raises inconvenient truths about Islam but an attack on Islamm as an ideology and as a political religious movement is not the same as racism or nciting violence on Muslims. THis attack on Wilders is simply an attack on our rights of free speech and our right to criticise religion. We must resist.

8 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

Ingrid, you must volunteer yourself to the merest gas chamber as it is long overdue. You are a racist, rude, arrogant, elitist and disgusting person.
I respect Adam, Abraham, Mosses, Jesus, Mohammad and rest of them. However, you gas chamber bound lot are insulting Jesus, Mohammad, … with any excuse! However to test your sentiment and authenticity when I mentioned about the same treatment of Mosses you are calling me blasphemous!

Tell me, why Moses is superior to Mohammad or Jesus? Don’t you know that your leader Geert is sucking up to the Zio-nazi Israel because he is a closet Zionist?

Your illogical, irrational and racist outburst due to bone deep hate against Christian and Islam is blatant and disgusting.

8 10 2010
Ingrid, daughterofdogandpig

I am not talking to you any more, you are a filthy, evil person, but I am defending against your attacks on good people, not only yours but all Muslims’ who raise the false comparison of blasphemy.

The Messiah is sinless. There are facts, proven by history and your Islamic sources that Mohammed was everything I have said, and more. I have tried to be toned-down because of your obvious devotion to him, but facts are: Mohammed is proved to 1)hate people without a cause 2)murder innocent people without cause 3)rape women without compunction, just to cause them torment and ruin them 4) rape at least one child at 8 3/4 years old, after years of Muftah whatever (forcing her down while he ejaculated between her thighs) beginning when he took her at six (yes, 6) years old from her father and mother’s control and protection, causing her to lose her hair and become ill and ruin her mind and everything else – stealing her childhood, just because he was a sinister, vile pervert of a demoniac, which, you know, he is burning in hell for if there is a hell, he’s slated for it. 7) taught his followers to a) steal from neighbors and tribes, doing it often b) take their children and women (probably boys, too, as he was a proven child molester, which is rampant today in the Muslim world, boy child rape by grown evil men, while society looks the other way), c) deceive their neighbors into thinking that they are peaceable and benign d) hide their real feelings, e) lie, for his guiding/commanding spirit named Allah he knew as ‘The Great Deceiver’. Look up the history of how he killed Safiya’s tribe, her father, her husband, brothers, and then took her on his caravan, went just outside the city, and raped her, they knew this would happen of course, and he tortured them before beheading them, just to be evil.
Do not dare ever compare Jesus or the Messiah of Bible or even Moses or anyone else, except Jeoffrey Dahmer, or Ted Bundy, with Mohammed. Mohammed was evil, proven by history. Moses killed one man, in defending a helpless slave who was being beaten by an Eqyptian, it may have been deliberate, or may have been accidental, but nevertheless, it was a good thing, to save a helpless person who was being treated meanly and perhaps would be killed by the Eqyptian. This is not murder of an innocent person. Moses was a moral man, a good man, a holy man. History proves everything. Your own sources bear eveything I said out, and more, (read how he had punished an old woman by tearing her to pieces with camels running in different directions, just for making fun of the ass-h-le she knew was evil.
So this is your holy man, no wonder you are so sold out to evil sprits. You will never be normal, any one who knows this stuff, and continues to adore and worship and obey Mohammed, it is vile, it is weird that you do this, (why?, how?) even if you go to psychiatric therapy for the rest of your lives, you will need it, which is a shame, because he ruins people. His god is the Devil, you know that, and you are a devotee of Satan, through Allah, a powerful demon spirit, and Mohammed, who did all these evil things, because he was possessed by evil, and would not renounce it. Unless you renounce it, you agree with it. Tell us why. Why?
Psychiatric care of people under Islam will not really work all the time, many will need exorcists first. Then, it is touch and go. I have no hope for many of you. But you are a blasphemer, and do not do that again, or I will curse you.

8 10 2010
Ingrid, daughterofdogandpig

And to make the subject clear here, you are not worthy of even talking about any of the above. You shouldn’t even say their names from your evil lips.
Geert Wilders is a great man, a hero of humanity, and I will be grateful to him, admire and respect him, love him, for ever. May Yah of the Universe protect him from all harm and evil
Infidels, you must Unite. Do you see how this is?
This is a fight, a war, between good and evil.
It is worse than I ever thought could be possible, it is crazed insane people we are defending ourselves against, and they are for the most part, the above example is actually typical, I think, I have seen this before, over many years. Rationality has no place in their minds. it is madness which they are overtaken by. where there is no reason, no rationality, no acknowledgment of facts, no truth included in their thoughts, we are not able to accomplish any progress with them. We can only defend, prevent and diligently watch. Protect yourselves by educating yourselves about Islam, and see the websites TheReligionofPeace.com, FormerMuslimsUnited, Geert Wilders’ official webblog home, Jihad Watch and see videos of Wafa Sultan defending Geert Wilders on the web. That is only for starters. But you will be made aware of the seriousness of this Islamic threat, and definitely, tell your people about his censored short film FITNA, documenting the Quran’s incitement to murder and destroy all of us Infidel countries/people, for Allah’s religion to be the only one on earth. No westerner says one word. It is upsetting to say the least, but it is all true, which is why it is so upsetting. Drink some wine beforehand, have it with you for those 12 minutes. Do not watch it at night, you will not be able to sleep.

8 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

Ingrid, daughterofdogandpig

Aren’t you intolerant and uneducated person with a determination to remain uneducated like your Israeli slave leader Geert Wilders? I know now, why all other fair minded people do not want to discuss with you because they found you close minded, prejudiced and bigoted person.

In my book the case is very simple. Free speech for all or none! Should you dare to criticize any religion then all religions are free for debate, discussion and criticism. No one should be allowed to insult Jesus or Mohammad if Moses is not allowed to be the same level of scrutiny.

Wilders and your dogmatic and blatantly discriminatory style and approaches ought to be condemned. Both of you are enemies of free speech, peace and stability of the world. You are boring examples of barbaric and inhumane bestiality!

Your denial and barbaric attack on Islam clearly demonstrate the fact that in the name of free speech you are deliberately inciting against Muslims and Arabs like your Zionist SLAVE leader Geert Wilders. You are irrational and illogical. You failed to substantiate any of your point. You and your leader Wilders are resorting in insanity and profanity.

Remember, you and your leader Wilder are barbaric warriors with no cause. The good part is most people of the world are not loaded barbarians like you.

8 10 2010
Ingrid, daughterofdogandpig

‘Truth is truth, til the end of reckoning.’

8 10 2010
Ingrid, daughterofdogandpig

There is a website which has researched the child-sex and wife-beating belief/doctrine of Islam. answering-islam.org, articles by Silas are very detailed using Islamic sources and scholars. (even though I personally don’t agree with everything there about the unholy trinity, we can take what is proven and reject what is not): Here are some of the verses for evidence, found elsewhere everywhere there are truthful and honest researches on the Quran:
Child Sex with adults sanctioned by Islam, in Quran: female children to be married and engaged in sex prior to their first menses (prepubescent). For that we turn to the Islamic source materials. Starting with the Quran:…65:4, Dawood
(it is permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. …obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur’an has held as permissible.” (Maududi, volume 5, p. 620, note 13) It is clear: Muslim men can engage in sex with prepubescent children!
Islam allows husbands to engage in sex with their child-brides, let’s move on to Muhammad and Aisha (probably his youngest sex-abuse victim who was his favorite ‘wife’.) The Islamic source materials state that Aisha was 9 when they consummated their marriage.
From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234
“Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.”
Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
“Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: “I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).””
From the hadith of Muslim, volume 2, #3309
Aisha reported: Allah’s Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine….
From the hadith of the Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116
“Aisha said, “The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old.” (The narrator Sulaiman said: “Or six years.”). “He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old.” (But remember, their years weren’t solar years like ours, only lunar, which would make her even younger (8 and ¾ years old exactly, when he raped her).
From “The History of Tabari”, volume 9, page 131
“Then the men and women got up and left. The Messenger of God consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me”…(The Prophet) married her three years before the Emigration, when she was seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old, after he had emigrated to Medina in Shawwal. She was eighteen years old when he died.
Islamic doctrine allows for prepubescent children to be abused by intercourse, and that Aisha was 9 when Muhammad raped her fully, (not just ejaculated between her legs, which also vile sin is common Islamic practice) for the first time. …
The hadith state that Aisha was taken to Muhammad’s house, as his bride, when she was 9 and she took her dolls with her as play toys.:
‘A’isha reported …she was taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)
‘A’isha reported that she used to PLAY WITH DOLLS in the presence of Allah’s Messenger and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah’s Messenger whereas Allah’s Messenger sent them to her. (Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5981) (So these other little girls were creeped out by him, too, can you imagine that poor little Aisha had no other place to turn or run to, like they did). That was her home, her lot, her hell. At one time in this hadith, she tells how Mohammed laughed so hard she saw his molar teeth as he asked her about her toys…dolls, horses, in her room…dolls are considered idolatry by Muslims, in general, but
A Muslim scholar says that it is okay for Aisha (and other children) to play with dolls because they are not considered adults:
Al-Khattaabee said: From this Hadeeth it is understood that playing with dolls (al-banaat) is not like the amusement from other images (suwar) concerning which the threat (wa’eed) of punishment is mentioned. The only reason why permission in this was given to ‘Aa’isha (may Allah be pleased with her) is because SHE HAD NOT, AT THAT TIME, REACHED THE AGE OF PUBERTY. (Source)
Examining the evidence from the previous sections we see
1. Islam allows sex with prepubescent children who are married
2. Aisha was playing with dolls after she consummated her marriage with Muhammad
3. Under Islam’s rules, female children were allowed to play with dolls because they had not yet entered puberty, i.e. had their first menses and became adults.
Muhammad was forcing sex upon a Aisha while still was a child. The Quran allows this, Muhammad did this, Aisha stated this, and the scholars affirm this. Islam’s children have been forced to deal with this horrendous mental, physical, emotional, spiritual abuse, then, through the centuries, and now, daily, even as the world looks the other way for fear of offending the Muslims. What about the Muslims’ offending the children? (What is said by the Messiah, capital punishment, in Matthew, that would be ‘better’ to do to those who are proven do this to children?)
Muhammad claimed greatness: his god praised Muhammad in the Quran: “Surely in the Messenger of God you have a good example”. 33:21
But when we examine what he did, we repudiate it. He was not “a good example.” If Muhammad were living in the West today and did what he did then to Aisha and others, he would be imprisoned as a criminal and denounced as a pervert, pedophile, and child-rapist.
Where is the mercy for the children in Islam? Where is the mercy for women? Where is the mercy for the boys, who are indoctrinated with this killing, raping, hating, abusing doctrine?

8 10 2010
Ingrid, daughterofdogandpig

Wife-beating in Islam, here are more evidence, from Silas’ research, which I paraphrase some for shortness:
However, even Aisha and Hafsah (two of Muhammad’s wives) were physically disciplined. Note that in each case when Aisha was struck she was married to Muhammad and she was probably younger than 16 years old.
Sahih Muslim #2127:

I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?…
Sahih Muslim #3506:
Jabir b. ‘Abdullah reported: Abu Bakr came and sought permission to see Allah’s Messenger. He found people sitting at his door and none amongst them had been granted permission, but it was granted to Abu Bakr and he went in. Then came ‘Umar and he sought permission and it was granted to him, and he found Allah’s Apostle sitting sad and silent with his wives around him. He (Hadrat ‘Umar) said: I would say something which would make the Holy Prophet laugh, so he said: Messenger of Allah, I wish you had seen (the treatment meted out to) the daughter of Kharija when she asked me some money, and I got up and slapped her on her neck. Allah’s Messenger laughed and said: They are around me as you see, asking for extra money. Abu Bakr then got up went to ‘Aisha and slapped her on the neck, and ‘Umar stood up before Hafsa and slapped her saying: You ask Allah’s Messenger which he does not possess. They said: By Allah, we do not ask Allah’s Messenger for anything he does not possess….
Bukhari volume 8, #828
Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to towards me and struck me violently with his fist and said, “You have detained the people because of your necklace.” But I remained motionless as if I was dead lest I should awake Allah’s Apostle although that hit was very painful.
Bukhari volume 7, #132
“Narrated Zam’a, “The prophet said, “None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day.””
In the first hadith Muhammad chest-slapped Aisha and “caused her pain
The context for the second Hadith is that Muhammad had been very upset because of his wives. He almost divorced them all! His closest friends came to cheer him up. Umar mentioned that he had slapped his wife because she wanted more money than he felt he could give. Muhammad laughed when he heard that. Then he pointed out his wives’ demands for more money. As a result, both fathers were angry and slapped their respective daughters. Physical discipline was used to bring the wives into line. Muhammad didn’t slap his wives but he approved others doing it for him.
The context for the third Hadith is Muhammad delayed breaking of camp to search for Aisha’s necklace. This made things hard for his followers because there was not much water. Abu Bakr struck her violently with his fist…In the fourth hadith Muhammad does not forbid wife beating, rather he didn’t want them beaten severely as Muslim’s slaves were beaten.
If wives were beaten with Muhammad’s approval then that practice would continue. Muslim women today are placed in the same position that Rifaa’s wife was placed: obey or be physically punished. We’ll see several examples of this later. See the whole study by Silas, on answering-islam.org.
It is very useful, interesting and scholarly. While I do not agree with the entire website, for instance, reject the belief of the trinity which is not biblical/scriptural, we need to seek truth wherever it is researched, and the author has indeed researched the Islam.

8 10 2010
Ingrid, daughterofdogandpig

DemocraticEgyptBlogspot.com has the Saudi Arabian government’s Quranic verses online and hadith too about Mohammed.
He compared Muslim women, wives to Goats. Muslim wives, he tells Muslim men, are like goats! (He really loves/respects women, doesn’t he?)

He said he visited hell and saw that the majority of the inhabitants there are women.
Because he said they were not grateful enough to their husbands.
(Oh, yeah, Muslim wives, shame on you for not loving all that abuse and hate for you and your children being degraded, you are ungrateful, you were allowed to live, you should be in abject submissive, mindless gratefulness for that, I know because I was in that kind of hell, with a Muslim ‘husband’. Shame on you wives! You will go to hell for not loving your abuse and acting like he’s god on earth and loving his beating, daily humiliation/degradation, hate, and rapes!) what kind of spirit would tell this man all that? A hateful one, a hater of women, children and mankind.
Mohammed calls women mentally inferior in need of male management, micro-management, and control. I believe the exact translation of their mental capacity/condition according to the prophet Mohammed, is women are ‘mentally deficient’.
I have heard that before, from more than one Muslim man.
Why are Muslim women worshipping this guy who obviously hated women and lied about them?
And who raped children?

8 10 2010
Ingrid, daughterofdogandpig

In our civilised society all ostensibly for human rights, it is an outrage that women are treated this way because of their male relatives’ religious beliefs.
Where are the protestors aside from Wafa Sultan, and Aayan Hirsi Ali?
come on, Muslim women, step up, but – we know you are in danger therefore, …but those who can, who are in safety, can, and must protest to protect their sisters within Islam. Oh, they will protest against that, but they are made to, and they are brainwashed. Abuse is such that they must accept and bend to their masters demands. Or, they die.
American and European women, we must speak up and defend them ourselves. Not only for their sakes, but for their male children too.

9 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

Ingrid, daughterofdogandpig

Aren’t you intolerant and uneducated person with a determination to remain uneducated like your Israeli slave leader Geert Wilders? I know now, why all other fair minded people do not want to discuss with you because they found you close minded, prejudiced and bigoted person.

In my book the case is very simple. Free speech for all or none! Should you dare to criticize any religion then all religions are free for debate, discussion and criticism. No one should be allowed to insult Jesus or Mohammad if Moses is not allowed to be the same level of scrutiny.

Wilders and your dogmatic and blatantly discriminatory style and approaches ought to be condemned. Both of you are enemies of free speech, peace and stability of the world. You are boring examples of barbaric and inhumane bestiality!

Your denial and barbaric attack on Islam clearly demonstrate the fact that in the name of free speech you are deliberately inciting against Muslims and Arabs like your Zionist SLAVE leader Geert Wilders. You are irrational and illogical. You failed to substantiate any of your point. You and your leader Wilders are resorting in insanity and profanity.

Remember, you and your leader Wilder are barbaric warriors with no cause. The good part is most people of the world are not loaded barbarians like you.

Historical facts:
1. The Jewish history is full of lies, deceits, treachery, betrayal, greed, murders, disobedience, …. . They betrayed Mosses and God. They say William Shakespeare, Charles Dickens, .. or anyone they do not like are ‘anti-Semites”!
2. They knew Jesus was the true Messiah! They went to Jesus and said, “are you the promised one who came to save us (Bony Israel)? Surely, it is a racist question! Jesus replied, “No, I came for the whole mankind”. Because of his response the Jews rejected him and said, “you are an imposter. ,,, and they are waiting for their never ending Messiah!
3. The Jews knew Mohammad is the true Messiah. However, he was born in an Arab tribe and for that reason they rejected him and they did every wrong things with him.
4. The Jews were kicked out from 2800 places in more than 2800 times. The Europeans used to hate them and they used to face many discriminations unlike Muslim countries!

Look, the Muslims are not talking against any other race or religion! Yet, you are talking about Islam.

Muslims are not asking you to go to a church or a brothel!! Yet, you are asking them not to go to Mosque!! It is elitist, incorrect and improper.

You see, your own impatient, immoral and totally illogical statements exposing you.

9 10 2010
Ingrid

Are there any Muslims who can answer any of my questions?

Are there any Muslims who feel ashamed of having a prophet who raped children?

10 10 2010
Faruque Ahmed

Ingrid,

No historians and historical records support your insanity and profanity!

The scenario is very simple. You are loaded with prejudice and bigotry.
You are putting shit in your mouth and then throwing those wet shit at other peoples direction with a hope it will hurt them.

The reality is those wet shits are inside your mouth, around your teeth and not hurting good people. They are above your insanity and profanity.

99.99% people of this universe reject Geert Wilders lord Jews.

“We Jews are going to bring war on Germany.” – David Brown, President of American Hebrew, in 1934, quoted in Edmonson’s I Testify, page 188.

“The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the fundamentals of Judaism.” – The Chicago Jewish Sentinel, October 8, 1942.

“Nations will gather together to bring their homage to the people of God; the whole fortune of nations will pass into the hands of the Jewish people, they will march behind the Jewish people, in chains as captives, and will prostrate before it.” – Isador Loeb, Le Probleme Juif.

“In everything, we are destroyers–even in the instruments of destruction to which we turn for relief…We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands.” – Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, pages 152, 155, and 147.

14 10 2010
Ingrid

All historians know what I say is the truth about Islam and its child-rapist founder. Truth is truth, til the end of reckoning.
Go AWAY WITH YOUR EVIL LIES.
Lies don’t have any place here on this board, this is for defending the truth and its defenders.

15 10 2010
Rahat Khan

Ingrid

Do you like to name the Historian and history book please? Failure to do so must attract proper apology and full retraction.

15 10 2010
Ingrid, infidel daughter of dog and pig

The Quran.
All the Hadith about Mohammed’s life, which Muslims believe. Do you not believe the Hadith?
Also corroborated by non-Muslim historical sources. Take your pick.
did you learn any truth in Islamic school?
Sorry, dumb question.

15 10 2010
Ingrid, infidel daughter of dog and pig

Are you telling me that you are honestly unaware or unsure that Mohammed was a child rapist?

Aisha his 6 year old wife tells what he did to her when in your own revered Hadith, in her own words.

What do you think about this? Are they lies? Did he not do it? Are the Hadith untrue? Or do you excuse him for this criminal sadistic hatred for this little helpless girl, and – how can you or any human being defend that?

If you don’t like what he did, if you find it to be the horror that it is, if you find that man’s life indefensible, then you should renounce it all and reclaim your humanity. No one should be defending and obeying a child rapist and murderer, woman hater and raper, and destroyer of boys and men, etc. MUSLIMS EITHER YOU ARE FOR THIS CRIMINALITY OR YOU ARE NOT, AND YOU MUST SAY SO, CLEARLY, YOU WILL HAVE TO FACE YOUR CHOICES OF ALLEGIANCE ONE DAY IN FRONT OF THE REAL CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE.

Yes, Allah lied to you. Mohammed lied to you all. But you aren’t mindless slaves, you must think and take action on your own according to your conscience, which has been suppressed. It is coming.

15 10 2010
Rahat Khan

The Jews conspired to murder Jesus!

Israeli slaves conspired to murder Justice today!!

It is not judge but the conspiratorial Dutch prosecution said, “insulting Quran is not same as insulting Muslims and Islam”!!! O.K. Racist and fascist Dutch, you opened the flood gate and do not blame others.

Anyway, it is like short lived Hitler’s victory.

Israeli salve Greet Wilders and you never condemned BARBARIC Jewish and Israeli customs and practices. Please do not attack Islam based on prejudice and bigotry, unfounded fear and paranoia, ignorance and arrogance. Will you stand up against Zionist filth?

No one should be inciting against Muslims and other ethno-religious communities. It is wrong, it is crime and offence.

“Rabbi Joseph said, ‘Come and hear. A maiden aged 3 years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition”

Mishnah: A girl of the age of 3 years and a day may be betrothed, subject to her father’s approval, by sexual intercourse.

“Harlot” (prostitute)?
A “Harlot” (prostitute) is designated in the Torah as any women who is not “a daughter of Israel” or who has sex with a man she is forbidden to marry. According to this interpretation, all non-Jewish women are considered “harlots” under the Jewish religious law.
Source: http://muslimvillage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29589&hl= for confirmation or reference and not for promotion of any one’s blog or web.

16 10 2010
Ingrid

Continuous refusal to answer any questions is admission of guilt in your case.

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